where does it say that they were jws? i see someone commented that they were jws, but not in the official story? i also saw on another news site that neighbors said "they think" they were jws. this would have been a rare instance where i defended jws if they were in fact jws.
cptkirk
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JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service
by JimmyPage inhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.
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Governing Body's Merciless Treatment Of Those Who Don't Listen And Obey Them Is A Symptom Of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
by frankiespeakin inbasically the governing body rules with an iron fist inside a velvet glove, they are so concerned and loving on the outside but will commit acts of violence on those that don't bow to their edicts.
no one inside the organization can ever question them to question them leads to a judicial commitee trial in which no excuse is allowed.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/pmh0001930/.
narcissistic personality disorder is a condition in which people have an excessive sense of self-importance, an extreme preoccupation with themselves, and lack of empathy for others.. symptomsa person with narcissistic personality disorder may:.
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cptkirk
do you remember the old soap operas? daytime soap operas....from a man's pov you might scratch your head and say, why are the girls into this so much? where a man wants to watch the football game, drink and act violent with his friends; a girl (in general) is not into this, but what is it about the soap operas? for one, and obviously, it's an emotional thing. it has to do with taking emotion and synthesizing a drug out of it. emotion via day to day interactions then becomes the drug of choice. hmmm interesting you say? well, in the jw org, this phenomena becomes much more prevalent with *all* people men and women, why? simple, they are very good at telling you that basically all forms of entertainment are bad....it is VERY VERY easy to demonize that which is tangible, but the intangible....well, that is much more difficult (at least for these folks), because you can't touch it and point at it on a picture. so really, by default, this soap opera drug of emotional mania becomes the drug of choice. i actually see it a lot on this board also, if all the PM's became public, trust me, it would blow your mind how prevalent it is also on this board....i like to refer to it as dementia, but that is just me i guess. anyway, yea, because they cannot point at this drug on a picture, it runs rampant, and manifests as all of the above social disorders and ology's.
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Governing Body's Merciless Treatment Of Those Who Don't Listen And Obey Them Is A Symptom Of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
by frankiespeakin inbasically the governing body rules with an iron fist inside a velvet glove, they are so concerned and loving on the outside but will commit acts of violence on those that don't bow to their edicts.
no one inside the organization can ever question them to question them leads to a judicial commitee trial in which no excuse is allowed.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/pmh0001930/.
narcissistic personality disorder is a condition in which people have an excessive sense of self-importance, an extreme preoccupation with themselves, and lack of empathy for others.. symptomsa person with narcissistic personality disorder may:.
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Unfaithful In What Is Least; Psychoanalysis Invited
by TMS inmy wife and i were longtime jws.
i was an elder for over 25 years and we had two stints of pioneering totally 14 years.
while we considered ourselves loyal witnesses, looking back on it we had some independence working: .
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cptkirk
tms: is this a joke? i once sacrificed a pig on the podium during the tms
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Hitler's and Rutherford's plan for a New World
by Lady Lee ini have mentioned this before but never quoted it so i think for many it was not really paid much attention.
but today i pulled the book off the shelf and found the quote (which i posted on another thread but i want to add a few things to the quotes.. after russell died and rutherford illegally seized the presidency of the wts he was faced with the huge problem that russell's "organization" was a rather loosely organizations that were independently controlled by the local congregations.
the society had little control of what people believed.
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ahhhh.....to have lived during a time of such fertile soil.....so many un-educated credulous minds....almost brings a tear to my eye. actually....it's a good frame of reference when looking at the absolute inanity of current WT dogma and attitude; it is as if, they never sort of caught up, and realized you can't run the same plays that you did in 1930....the people have caught up. time to step up their game, but alas, they do not have the resources in talent to do this. unfortunately for them......those resources are available--and are in the process of being implemented, elsewhere. everything is a cycle, people will never change, people thirst for powerful leaders-----once the cycle of corruption has peaked out, the new process begins.
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I played with the Ouija board last night....
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cptkirk
outlaw: that is some serious business man! nothing better than a happy lucid drunk. they are strong with the force.
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Learning a lesson from Piers Morgan
by cptkirk ingive the guy the benefit of the doubt...i guess,( i don't know the man personally so how can i say for sure).
in that, he had "good intentions" when he took such a hardline against specific types of gun ownership.
this is a good example to learn from though (me too).
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cptkirk
the man is sincerely battered....he didn't expect the amount of hatred that he received, he knew he was going to get lambasted but...not like this. sure, his puppet masters said yea we got your back etc. so he went in confident, but he was not prepared for what was coming...just look at him now, he is gray as a ghost.
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Learning a lesson from Piers Morgan
by cptkirk ingive the guy the benefit of the doubt...i guess,( i don't know the man personally so how can i say for sure).
in that, he had "good intentions" when he took such a hardline against specific types of gun ownership.
this is a good example to learn from though (me too).
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cptkirk
give the guy the benefit of the doubt...i guess,( i don't know the man personally so how can i say for sure). in that, he had "good intentions" when he took such a hardline against specific types of gun ownership. this is a good example to learn from though (me too). in that, it's a good idea to fully think through any stance that you are going to take such a hardline on; realizing, the opposition to your stance may overwhelm you.
this is something that i would say to my friends at WT. don't you people get it? don't you see that you have brought so much of this on yourselves? by taking super hardline stances on things that you aren't even sure of(because they aren't black+white scripturally)? that is just ridiculous. people put their faith in your direction and many died or were raped because of hardline stances which you decreed as coming directly from god (only to be changed later anyway).
the same thing goes for borg as it does for piers morgan. if piers had just said, 'you know i hate gun violence, and this really needs to stop'...maybe talked about the kids a little, maybe even cried a little while speaking about dead children in a schoolyard. maybe if he didn't discuss this issue in the same tone that he did with other issues etc. it would have conveyed his point possibly equally as strong, and given him more support, +kept him safe from the backlash of the most aggressive group of americans(at least safer).
ok are you starting to get the point WT? when you take a stance that is so absolutely aggressive and absolutely (tyrannical), you push the good people away(realizing these issues aren't black and white hence creating doubt/fear among sane followers wondering what is wrong), and you insure that you give a platform to the craziest people inside the church, while also giving these crazies leverage over the sane people.
this recent post about money equating to satan, don't you see that you are drawing an absolute which in turn gives leverage to all the crazies in the org, and then this drives away the sane and prudent individuals who have made responsible decisions with their money? this isn't a great example, but the principle is there. you draw an absolute, unmoderated edict, and in turn it energizes all the loonys, while putting more pressure on the sane people to become themselves loony.
if you talked about the gray issues (SUCH AS MONEY), in a way that was reasonable (even if your views were heavily negative towards it), you would do more to put your own opinions in a positive light, while at the same time saving yourselves from this HUGGGEEEE and overwhelming backlash....not even to mention the empowerment of the crazies and or grossly incompetent over the reasonable and sane.
when i say crazies what am i talking about, who? aren't all the crazies in institutions? well no for one, but for two, it is tongue and cheek to describe, basically, individuals who aren't very intelligent, and are generally led by their emotions, and also who try to take more control than is due to them....these are crazies, why? because if you were to give them full reign, society would be, in fact, completely crazy.
here are some pics of pierce morgan, look at what this debacle has done to him. (note these are pictures that are generally used to hold the individual in a strong light) as in pics generated directly for advertising his show, or wiki page. looks like a man falling apart to me.
i think some things are black and white, but we see the danger in trying to force things to be black and white, which simply are not.
you may read this post and wonder why i articulate myself this way, but in other posts at times i sound like a raving wild man....well for one, i am a raving wild man, and for two, i like making more adversity for myself in venues such as these, for the purpose of challenging myself, as well as challenging others to think. i am not here to make friends, i know there is a certain group on this page that are totally out of their minds with paranoia about me, to you, again, i assure you, i am not interested in making rl friends here, or having some sort of "board renown". at this particular time in my life, i just need a venue to speak like this, that's it.
btw, piers is not an american citizen, i am not trying to incite hate, i am simply stating that: he should have known the kind of backlash he would get speaking on such a sensitive issue with such vehemence, without even being a citizen? i can't even fathom that, how could he not have known what he was getting into.
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What does an "obedient" elder look like?
by nochoice injust a clarification please.
some posters on other threads talked about "obedience" being an important factor to get circuit assembly and district assembly parts.
i don't fully understand.
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cptkirk
WAY OF THE MASTER, KIRK CAMERON 7TH DEGREE BLACK BELT! oh not that kind of master? maybe they are talking about....
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What does an "obedient" elder look like?
by nochoice injust a clarification please.
some posters on other threads talked about "obedience" being an important factor to get circuit assembly and district assembly parts.
i don't fully understand.