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cptkirk
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wonder how many of the hardcore apostates are singing it up right now
by cptkirk inhow many of the jwn grinders are thumpin bibles in that kh singing make the truth your own?
lmao.
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Requirements for Attending Memorial
by cptkirk inluke 10:27 required to attend: love god with your whole soul, heart, mind--and you love your neighbor as yourself .
required to attend: you have listened to christ (forget verse) where he said you must lose yourself to find him--and in doing so this means that you would not be doing things like competing against other people in the church or looking for status ,or seeking good paying jobs)...etc.
required to attend: oh and the big one, you are not doing what you are doing (going to memorial/meetings etc) because you are just wanting to make sure you live forever--but instead you do these things purely because you just love god and your neighbor so much..... what would global attendance look like?.
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cptkirk
actually that is funny because it gave me an idea on how they could shut the org down in a way that made it everyone elses fault. if they knew the doors had to be closed soon anyway, they could just make absolutely ridiculous requirements, and then when nobody could meet them, they could say oh well they all failed what can we say? they just all failed we had no choice but to close shop. for example ,they could say that n3w l1ght indicates sex is only to be had when attempting to make babies, that would end it all right there.
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in limbo.
by Captain Blithering inyo homies.. .
ltr ftp (long time, first time etc.).
i don't really know where to start, but i guess you've all been here before so you'll know where i'm coming from.
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cptkirk
I know how you feel. I was in sort of a strange circumstance where we went to meetings when i was very very young...and i was taught to pray to jehovah (i can even remember cursing in the schoolyard age 8 and promising jehovah in my head that i wouldn't do that anymore). but then, my life changed a lot, and no more meetings.....then meetings again years later via a family member. the point being, a lot of this was ingrained in me, where i just did it because i thought it was what you were supposed to do...as opposed to learning it myself and making my own decisions really. if the jws were a corporation (which i guess they are registered as one) but a pure corporation,you would avoid their stock like the plague. they are preaching "truth", yet they can't get truth to stay in one form from one day to the next. if nothing else, seems they have set themselves up for a big crash by using all of these absolutes. "truth" "elders are appointed by god directly"....whenever you make extreme statements like that, the scrutiny is going to be just as extreme, and these things just do not hold up to scrutiny--that is not apostate, that is just investigative reporting.
think about it like this, if the whistle was blown right now, and you were up before some kind of body of power...and they are saying to you: you went out and taught people that this was "the truth", yet you knew of thousands of lies within the org, why would you go out and tell people this is truth? knowing what you do? how would you feel if you were all of the sudden put in that position?
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wonder how many of the hardcore apostates are singing it up right now
by cptkirk inhow many of the jwn grinders are thumpin bibles in that kh singing make the truth your own?
lmao.
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cptkirk
yup, if it's half, right there, that is quite a bit. YOU'RE BRAINWASHED YOU'RE BRAINWASHED YOU'RE BRAINWASHED--wait what time is? brb meeting. i'm not even trying to be mean, it's just funny shit.
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wonder how many of the hardcore apostates are singing it up right now
by cptkirk inhow many of the jwn grinders are thumpin bibles in that kh singing make the truth your own?
lmao.
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cptkirk
how many of the jwn grinders are thumpin bibles in that kh singing make the truth your own? lmao
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Requirements for Attending Memorial
by cptkirk inluke 10:27 required to attend: love god with your whole soul, heart, mind--and you love your neighbor as yourself .
required to attend: you have listened to christ (forget verse) where he said you must lose yourself to find him--and in doing so this means that you would not be doing things like competing against other people in the church or looking for status ,or seeking good paying jobs)...etc.
required to attend: oh and the big one, you are not doing what you are doing (going to memorial/meetings etc) because you are just wanting to make sure you live forever--but instead you do these things purely because you just love god and your neighbor so much..... what would global attendance look like?.
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cptkirk
luke 10:27 required to attend: love god with your whole soul, heart, mind--and you love your neighbor as yourself
required to attend: you have listened to christ (forget verse) where he said you must lose yourself to find him--and in doing so this means that you would not be doing things like competing against other people in the church or looking for status ,or seeking good paying jobs)...etc
required to attend: oh and the big one, you are not doing what you are doing (going to memorial/meetings etc) because you are just wanting to make sure you live forever--but instead you do these things purely because you just love god and your neighbor so much....
what would global attendance look like?
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How do I as a future "Therapist" help ex-jws that won't move on from the WT?
by booker-t ini am halfway through my master's program in psychology/sociology and plan on being a therapist/sounselor.
i left jw's in 1988 and i have never looked back.
i enjoy my life so much after getting my aa degree, then my ba degree, and now i will soon get my ma degree.
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cptkirk
144001, just to recap, in a matter of 4 sentences we have:
psychology, physchologists are demonic
speaking in tongues and everything in his office started floating on air
I inquired of the spirts
the nephilim were pretty desirous to female humans
female half-relatives
was the psychiatrist one of those half-nephilim? what did the spirits tell you?
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Does the misuse of disfellowshiping promote sociopathic behavior?
by abilenetexas inwe do not burn people at the stake any more.
but how far removed are we from that dark ages ritual when we tear families apart through the misuse of disfellowshiping by misapplying scriptures such as 1 corinthians 5:11 and 2 john 9-11?
with that thought in mind, please consider the following:.
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cptkirk
there is an invisible line; i myself had forgotten about this line because i was away from the org for a fairly long period of time (bout 5 years)....during that time though i stayed in contact with an elder who was what you might call "super spiritual", and our conversations usually didn't have much in the way of boundaries (at least relatively speaking).....so when i started going back to meetings, again, i had forgotten about this invisible line because the conversations that i had with the elder were always frank, and i guess he trusted me enough not to worry about the content of the discussions (ie. wherever i took the conversation he would usually also go).
it was only after i started seeing various people from the kh going red in the face while i was talking on various occasions that i remembered this invisible line. one example that was similar to what you state above had to do with me citing a fairly recent WT dvd containing fragments of a speech made by nathan knorr. he was giving a huge keynote during ww2(in new york) and he told everyone that the system was not going to end, because the system would end during a time of peace. this was on a dvd that THE SOCIETY put out all of 5 years before, and this was one of the main trigger points that set a lot of them off. i explained that what i was saying was from the dvd, but it didn't matter. i was an apostate obviously.
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Does the misuse of disfellowshiping promote sociopathic behavior?
by abilenetexas inwe do not burn people at the stake any more.
but how far removed are we from that dark ages ritual when we tear families apart through the misuse of disfellowshiping by misapplying scriptures such as 1 corinthians 5:11 and 2 john 9-11?
with that thought in mind, please consider the following:.
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cptkirk
i'm re-reading what you wrote, it is very deep , and it veers into the poetic as well (trying to do school work at the same time). couple things that come to my mind as i'm reading it again, for one "group think", and another is that unfortunately some people do have to become "its". these people are mostly locked up in prisons for extremely violent crimes....once they are under the control of the prison system, they should be given the chance to unbecome "its" though. i see the problem very clearly....you cannot simply say to a sector of society (within civil society), ok you are all now "its", because eventually, they will form together like voltron and come after you to supplant you (after probably decades of grievous hardship). even if nobody is directly saying to them "you are all its", it just becomes what it is via neglect and hardship and whatever else.
yea and at the end, obviously hitler comes to mind if you know the history of germany and how that all came about. hitler was not exactly mr. pragmatic. black/white, seek/destroy. fortunately the WT is not quite that bad, at least not yet lol.
atexas what is your story anyway? this is your first post? that is some heavy material.
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Does the misuse of disfellowshiping promote sociopathic behavior?
by abilenetexas inwe do not burn people at the stake any more.
but how far removed are we from that dark ages ritual when we tear families apart through the misuse of disfellowshiping by misapplying scriptures such as 1 corinthians 5:11 and 2 john 9-11?
with that thought in mind, please consider the following:.
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cptkirk
pssst, shhh, *whisper* want to tell you a little secret: the *entire* apparatus/structure of the religion itself promotes, and is a chief enabler to sociopathic tendencies and pathological behavior. just dispense the literature and go up to the podium a few times a month, and you can sociopath it up until your heart is content.