think we had september 2011, then it was dec 21, 2011....i'm trying to get ahead of the game here....so what is the next date after dec 2011?
dec 2012?
the masonic capstone at the denver airport says we should open it in the year 2094...wow you better go tell them to open it sooner..
think we had september 2011, then it was dec 21, 2011....i'm trying to get ahead of the game here....so what is the next date after dec 2011? dec 2012?
the masonic capstone at the denver airport says we should open it in the year 2094...wow you better go tell them to open it sooner.
my turn on the soapbox.. .
well friends ive just gotton home from the special edition meeting, care of the enthusiastic circus overseer and what a great moral lesson his talk was tonight.. .
do you want to be a guest in god's tent?.
they have been passing this around in their back elder room talks for years. i think i posted about this a few months ago. they are taking their philosphy from star wars now, ben kenobi said many of the truths we cling to are from a certain point of view. i know about other bizarre principles they pass around...like it's ok to treat people like shit once they are baptized if you are an elder.
imagine this conversation with someone supposedly "high up" in the jw org (someone who is supposed to really know his/her stuff).
"omg look at that lightning omgomgomg and the thunder, god is angry *panic*".
<high-up jw> "oh hohohohohehehahehah!
imagine this conversation with someone supposedly "high up" in the jw org (someone who is supposed to really know his/her stuff)
ok this is what i say:
"omg look at that lightning omgomgomg and the thunder, GOD IS ANGRY *panic*"
<high-up jw> "oh hohohohohehehahehah! my little friend, that is not god! that is just an atmospheric electrostatic discharge and that other thing is called thunder or a sonic shock wave, you silly little man hehaheahahe! hohohoho!"
ok, so you turn around and say to him, ok let's follow YOUR OWN LOGIC....and go a bit deeper into science....is this the point of cognitive dissonance? it's genesis (cognitive dissonance) in the mind of a jw? he/she then becomes the same silly little man that he is calling ME, for thinking lightning and thunder means god is angry?
hohohoho those are not neanderthal bones hohoho ...you see...god got drunk....and then...dinosaur bones? nooo ...you see..god was actually on lsd that day.
with all of the announcements made in our kh this year, we have announced 4 da' s and only 2 that got baptised.
the 2 baptised were born into the jw family.
we also lost 4 elders, and 1 ms.. what was the count for your kh for 2011?.
you must be an apostate buddy. don't you know the jw's preaching only goes up? they had 3948534589345 billion trillion hours in service this year don't you know anything? (course most of this time is counted while driving around in a car doing nothing) . they only make the bleeding worse, the more they refuse to acknowledge reality and yet call themselves the truth....if they don't stop the bleeding soon, they are just going to be a punch-line. sort of like one of those prescription drugs that causes 500 fatal diseases, all at the cost of assuaging hemorrhoids. just cracks me up man, they use the world's model, call it their own, and then wonder why they have the same results as the world. the difference being the world is setup to be able to withstand collapse, and rebuild..rinse and repeat. the jw line is perfection......sort of contradicting. if there is any truth to this religion, i think it's pretty clear where you guys went wrong. instead of fixing shit that you knew was broken, you just kept passing it down the line saying jah was going to fix it for you. apparently jah expected you to be a little more responsible.
it has been very interesting and beneficial reading the posts and comments of everyone on the board since i joined back in june of this year.
the recent efforts of mankeli have made me consider exactly what it is i have issue with when it comes to the teachings of the wtbs and jehovah's witnesses.
i have stated my background before: 38 years in the organization, 10 years at bethel in responsible positions, 15 years an elder with circuit and district responsibilities and parts on circuit and disctrict assemblies, a former member of the hospital liason committee and a presiding overseer for 5 years.
there is a lot of irony in regard to my time as a jw. when i was in my late teens, i would go hang out with the jw group ages 18-25....these were smart people, straight a students, people smart...and they were considered "spiritual"....the real irony is, what i saw these guys doing....you know, letting some worldy people hang out with us sometimes, watching some movies that weren't totally correct or whatever, letting beards, side-burns, goatees grow on weekends....under-age drinking on weekends etc etc etc etc etc etc, etc etc, etc etc ETC!
THE IRONY IS THIS: THESE WERE THE "TOP OF THE LINE WITNESSES" , GOOD LOOKING SMART LEARNED THREE FOUR LANGUAGES TO PREACH IN OTHER COUNTRY ELDER AT AGE 28 ETC...
yet by the standards they supposedly impose at the top, all of these guys should be looked down on and borderline kicked out of the org. i think eventually they will all wake up and leave, i havent talked to any of them in years...but i dont see how anyone with a brain can stay in this religion, it's utter hypocrisy.
i was hated toward the end because i dared to do stuff like this openly for everyone to see, my reasoning was , 'look everyone does this stuff why should i hide it?' if you hate me, you have to hate pretty much everyone under the age of 60. thats why i said the ultimate fate of this org is to be a religion for people over 65. then once that occurs, the next step is for it to disappear forever. goodbye farewell amen.
HAHAHA you know what i just thought of that is SOOO FUNNY....if the guys at the top actually ever did what I DID, think about it? imagine if they said to the "flock" , "you know we have made a lot of mistakes, and we made false prophecy regarding generations and all that, we are so sorry we made these mistakes, oh and that United Nations thing we are soooo sorry about that guys, we want to turn over a new leaf and take a different approach to shepherding, a much more pragmatic approach"...guess what? the "flock" would probably do the same thing they did to me, they would say FU and hate them and god knows what they would do after that.
the irony gets too thick, the greatest sin, the most awful and abominable sin in "the truth", is to tell the truth.
it has been very interesting and beneficial reading the posts and comments of everyone on the board since i joined back in june of this year.
the recent efforts of mankeli have made me consider exactly what it is i have issue with when it comes to the teachings of the wtbs and jehovah's witnesses.
i have stated my background before: 38 years in the organization, 10 years at bethel in responsible positions, 15 years an elder with circuit and district responsibilities and parts on circuit and disctrict assemblies, a former member of the hospital liason committee and a presiding overseer for 5 years.
doesn't surprise me. they are all nuts, just different flavors of nuts. btw i can see why you left darkknight, you are way to lighthearted and congenial to be a jw. don't you realize the enemy is everywhere!?!!?
it has been very interesting and beneficial reading the posts and comments of everyone on the board since i joined back in june of this year.
the recent efforts of mankeli have made me consider exactly what it is i have issue with when it comes to the teachings of the wtbs and jehovah's witnesses.
i have stated my background before: 38 years in the organization, 10 years at bethel in responsible positions, 15 years an elder with circuit and district responsibilities and parts on circuit and disctrict assemblies, a former member of the hospital liason committee and a presiding overseer for 5 years.
please don't dignify mankeli...it makes me wonder about some of you, that you can't discern he is pathological. i think it might be that some of you are older, and don't understand how to figure people out through text.
i do have one question for you darkknight, you're obviously up in age based on the history you state. seems like a strange alias for an older guy? mrdarkknight? sounds like something a young kid would name himself.
anyway i have a question for you. you were a presiding overseer for 5 years? one thing i want to know...something that really surprised me that i was told shortly before i left ...was talking to a guy about a situation where they weren't going to let a guy get baptized because of something he was involved with...and he started telling me about how the GB got involved with this situation...he went on to tell me the GB is actually involved a lot more than i guess most people realize...(the guy telling me this didn't seem surprised, he thought i was weird because i didn't know this)...but anyway he told me that the GB prays over all elder appointments? if you were a PO you must know the answer to this? and the fact that the GB plays an active role with the BOE's in any given cong? this was all shocking news to me, and i want to know if this is true.
i see a few want to believe in the watchtower's view of bible prophecy, scriptural understandings and the view that the "anointed remnant" dispense the "spiritual food at the proper time".. how would you refute those views?.
any of you ever heard the saying, "you wrestle with pigs, you come out smelling like shit"? you need to ignore mankeli. he knows exactly what he's doing, he's making a mockery of the entire notion of challenging the wt...which is exactly what they want? anyone that challenges them to seem mentally sick?
and if you consistently engage the mentally sick...what do you become yourself.......?
When I was little... my father was famous.
He was the greatest sam-urai in the empire;
and he was the Shogun's decapitator.
He cut off the heads of a hundred and thirty-one lords.
It was a bad time for the empire.
The Shogun just stayed inside his castle -- and he never came out.
People said his brain was infected by DEVILS.
My father would come home -- he would forget about the killings.
He wasn't scared of the Shogun, but the Shogun was scared of him.
Maybe that was the problem.
Then, one night... the Shogun sent his ninja spies to our house.
They were supposed to kill my father... but they didn't.
*woman screams*
That was the night everything changed
indulge the possibility that, as profits from printed materials become thinner, watchtower might want to stop having members carry printed materials to the homes of many.
i know it will probably go through more phases of "cheapening" the materials (softcover books, pamplets instead of brochures, flyers instead of pamphlets) but let's consider the idea that they will one day cease delivering anything printed.. the door-to-door work is huge in controlling members and monitoring loyalty.
pioneers are their biggest supporters.
hand job, something more jw's could use.
indulge the possibility that, as profits from printed materials become thinner, watchtower might want to stop having members carry printed materials to the homes of many.
i know it will probably go through more phases of "cheapening" the materials (softcover books, pamplets instead of brochures, flyers instead of pamphlets) but let's consider the idea that they will one day cease delivering anything printed.. the door-to-door work is huge in controlling members and monitoring loyalty.
pioneers are their biggest supporters.
i think i got your winner man. "knob polishers" it's got a nice duality to it. also, the irony being, they would do more good for society by literally polishing the householder's door knobs, rather then propagating their brain dead material. "sally paints the walls at 4pm on fridays" ok paragraph 1, can we get some mics going here please? ok what does sally paint? and the b part, what time does sally generally do her painting?
