campain? yeah this is definitely a jw pioneer, lack of education is a good indicator. sorry for what they have done to you, it's bad.......much easier to brainwash uneducated people...there is a reason they don't want you going to college.....critical thinking = bad. JEHOVAH appoints the elders! wait, the guy we appointed beats up his wife and kids? but...JEHOVAH appointed him....wait...so then how did he get appointed? BECAUSE YOU APPOINTED HIM YOU DUMB FUCKS.
cptkirk
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ATTENTION PLEASE The Heavy "Preaching" about the "Kingdom" of Freedom
by TheTruthWillMakeYouFree inattention please the heavy "preaching" about the "kingdom" of freedom guys!!.
something big is coming.....heavy "special campain" like pioneer preaching to many .
newspapers and big tv channels to say the truth about " the truth "!!!!
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So you think the Roman Catholic Church is different from the WTS re hiding abuse
by blondie indeposition of a snap leader to be made publicposted by mark serrano on january 18, 2012 flaglate yesterday, a judge unsealed the six hour deposition of snap executive director david clohessy by five lawyers representing kansas city bishop robert finn and five kansas city accused pedophile priests (fr.
michael tierney, msgr.
thomas obrien, fr.
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cptkirk
haha botr...reading your reply...you sound like you've been studying my dominating methods of articulation. almost thought i was reading something that I WROTE there for a second. of course i don't think we are fighting for the same cause, but it's all good. you've got the warrior spirit.
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Signs From God?
by What Now? innot sure about the rest of you that are mentally out, but every now and again i still have those moments where i think "ok god, if this is in fact the true religion and the organization is right and i'm on the wrong path, send me a big, glaringly obvious sign that i can't ignore.. .
anyways, this past sunday my husband and i just did not feel like going to the meeting.
we weren't in the mood to sit through it.
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cptkirk
how bout stop looking for signs, and start looking for facts.
fact 1 = jw's preach the UN is the great dragon (i can't remember their official terminology, but something along the lines of great dragon)
fact 2 = jw's sign as NGO with UN, swearing to uphold the charter of the UN....
stick to the facts in life, and your path will be made much clearer, void of mind controlling cults.
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Getting Ready to Go To War
by arko_n9ne inthis whole thing of jehovah's witnesses--it's not my war.
but that doesn't mean a soldier doesn't have a part in it.. i live with my wife and her two brothers (for those who need the refresher course in arkonomics) and the brothers, being witnesses, tend to be real p's in my a. you ever been talked down to by a star trek geek?
he gets all smug because he can speak klingon and "relate" negative star trek events to you?
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cptkirk
you have been talked down to by star trek geeks before? jesus christ where does that put you in the pecking order? i'd be lookin to move up a few pegs too if i were you. not sure how many pegs you plan on knocking these poor bastards down, they don't sound like they have made it to peg 1 yet. if you want some good advice? go out and buy the best possible porn you can find, then leave it strewn all over the house on a regular basis. theocratic war = won
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getting back to the sex subject...(serious)
by cptkirk inok so the jw's rail against the un for decades as the beast...then they swear to uphold the charter of the un...this doesn't matter though.
i want to point something else out that is fairly black and white in regards to sex...and the larger implications this has for the entire religion and the religion's future.
i don't want to debate sexual positions, i could care less...what i'm about to say has to do with the culture and truth of this religion, not with the sex.
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cptkirk
one more thing, to further delineate the ignorance of some of my dubious friends here.
What is PORNOGRAPHY? what is it? tell me, there are 5,000 people watching you and listening to you, here is the mic: tell me what is porn?
derrr derrrr welll ummm derrrr I can tell you one thing "I know it when I see it!" . - i believe this quote was taken from a justice on the supreme court of the united state of america.
well what is porn? hide everyones eyes omg it's porn! WTF IS IT? I DONT KNOW WTF HELP ME IT'S JUST PORN I'M MELTING !
it's two people uhhh having sex? woa. holy shit that's what porn is? well we better get the authorities PRONTO
so this horrofic thing called porn is two people having sex...and in the JW CULT porn is to be avoided like the plague, it is demonic beyond words.
so if a=b and b=c, sex is disgusting and horrific.
have you ever ever EVER heard someone saying, hey get that terrible horrible porn out of here, because i hate to see people not married having sex. no. yet this is the only law being broken according to the book. in other words, if some super christian sees porn, really, the first words out of their mouths should be. "those 2 better be married". never heard those words uttered. just porn is demonic, i know it when i see it, i can't tell you what it is, but i know it when i see it.......
this is from someone that sits on one of the highest seats in the USA.
you have no idea how much contempt i have for some of you on this board. if you were in front of me, i would spit in your faces. you are more full of shit than the WT. because if not for this one quote, you would try and make me look like a foolish dick. this quote shows what permeates the land, and many people's minds.
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getting back to the sex subject...(serious)
by cptkirk inok so the jw's rail against the un for decades as the beast...then they swear to uphold the charter of the un...this doesn't matter though.
i want to point something else out that is fairly black and white in regards to sex...and the larger implications this has for the entire religion and the religion's future.
i don't want to debate sexual positions, i could care less...what i'm about to say has to do with the culture and truth of this religion, not with the sex.
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cptkirk
many of you are pointless and dubious. it's something effecting everyone's lives, not like these obscure articles you bring up from 1921. if people practice freedom in the bedroom, but the GB's law is no freedom in the bedroom, it's quite relevant.
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getting back to the sex subject...(serious)
by cptkirk inok so the jw's rail against the un for decades as the beast...then they swear to uphold the charter of the un...this doesn't matter though.
i want to point something else out that is fairly black and white in regards to sex...and the larger implications this has for the entire religion and the religion's future.
i don't want to debate sexual positions, i could care less...what i'm about to say has to do with the culture and truth of this religion, not with the sex.
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cptkirk
this is my opinion and i might be wrong...but this is what i picture in my head:
governing body members holding these *extreme* views on sex , and wanting to print it right in the WT for everyone to see, but having misgivings for a number of reasons, and just not doing it. in the meantime many in the WT not holding these views, with the exception of many elders and some others....and popular belief trumping the GB...with the GB continuing their teeth gnashing, knowing so many witnesses are bangin like "animals" and having oral sex within the "marriage arangement".
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getting back to the sex subject...(serious)
by cptkirk inok so the jw's rail against the un for decades as the beast...then they swear to uphold the charter of the un...this doesn't matter though.
i want to point something else out that is fairly black and white in regards to sex...and the larger implications this has for the entire religion and the religion's future.
i don't want to debate sexual positions, i could care less...what i'm about to say has to do with the culture and truth of this religion, not with the sex.
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cptkirk
i look at it like this, the people i know, and the people i've talked to on this....are from metropolis areas... even if it's only 50% of them in metropolis areas, how many more is it in hicksville? since i obviously didn't ask every single elder, but it's just like polling data, the polls don't either. they profile people, ask chunks of people from different profiles, then use their little math constructs to make predictions. the people i was asking were not the oldest most conservative elders i could find...they were middle of the road, and they always had the same generic answer about porniea.
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getting back to the sex subject...(serious)
by cptkirk inok so the jw's rail against the un for decades as the beast...then they swear to uphold the charter of the un...this doesn't matter though.
i want to point something else out that is fairly black and white in regards to sex...and the larger implications this has for the entire religion and the religion's future.
i don't want to debate sexual positions, i could care less...what i'm about to say has to do with the culture and truth of this religion, not with the sex.
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cptkirk
ok so the JW's rail against the UN for decades as the beast...then they swear to uphold the charter of the UN...this doesn't matter though. I want to point something else out that is fairly black and white in regards to sex...and the larger implications this has for the ENTIRE religion and the religion's future.
i don't want to debate sexual positions, i could care less...what i'm about to say has to do with the culture and truth of this religion, not with the sex. and where this religion will be in 30 years, if it still exists at all by then.
this is not 100% but i know it's damn close , 95+% there is apparently a gap in "truth" yet again (reason i cited UN), that is becoming brighter and brighter as the day draws near (/sarcasm off)
95%+ of elders are going to tell you one thing about sex...but that has not apparently reached the ears of all those 30 and under...and my guess is, even those 30 and under, even if they are pioneers, they will tell their studies something different in contrast to what the elders will say. this has a very interesting implication, because if this is true on one thing, it will probably be true on other things (at least in the coming years)
as we all know sex is something very bad and disgusting, it is the disgusting thing that brings desolation ...well actually it's ok if you do it under the covers with the lights off, also you must wear pajamas and cut out holes in the crotch area...then it is clean and you will no longer beckon the mighty wrath of the pestilence bringers and smiters.
that is pretty much what the elders believe (even if they are doing something different in their bedrooms, they are begging god for forgiveness)...i'm trying to picture all the naked husbands and wives on the floor together praying after they enjoyed sex too much.
what is the point of all of this? it's not sex. the point is, the younger people (even the zealous younger people do not believe, nor teach each other this perspective, nor would i even venture to say, they probably don't teach it to students either)
so a rift is growing.....for every young person that tells you they are having wild sex, ask them what the elders think of it....they are either not real witnesses and just don't know it (will be a big shock to find out all their work is worthless because they are kinky) then what? pray to god to take away your sex drive? slippery slope, but that is all beside the point.
bottom line, the rift is there. get an elder 1on1 and discreetly ask him about positions (forget about anal, you are going to gehenna if you even entertain that thought)...just positions...if he is a good elder, he will tell you that is porneia. again, the rift is there, ask the young people...who is right? why does a rift exist in the truth? it's the truth right? the word of the GB is absolute PERIOD.
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guilt trip
by cptkirk ini've been away from wt for a while....i'm all of the sudden dealing with so much guilt.
you know how they say "there is no excuse"?
no matter what happens you have to go to meetings/service etc.
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cptkirk
i've been away from WT for a while....i'm all of the sudden dealing with so much guilt. you know how they say "there is no excuse"? no matter what happens you have to go to meetings/service etc. i'm not feeling guilty about that, i'm feeling guilty because of the mere IDEA (which ironically is a good solid principle) ie. don't let anything get you off track, do your part regardless. the problem is when it's applied to the WT, and not real things like family or a solid career. i think this guilt was instilled in me long long time ago, and it's just firing off on me right now nonstop, hard to concentrate. guilt trip city.
which is actually in this case (normally it is the weak thing) is actually the strong thing. you see so many witnesses (a lot of them elders), who don't stay around because they even believe in the religion so much anymore, they just refuse to be made to feel like they gave up...but again, in this case, giving up on alcoholism is a good thing...it's not giving up on a marriage vow or something.