Even the most straight edged elders are doubting what is happening...the only people who aren't are the gungo-ho wack job elders, and ironically, they are the gift that keeps giving, because they are the ones completely destroying the religion like a wild boar locked in a candy store. they better pray god is not real, i can just see them standing before god like they are 8 years old with their thumbs in their mouth "but i didn't know that?" but but but i didn't know? anyone else pick up on this? i see grown men with this excuse from time to time, i expect to hear that from a 9 year old..."but i didn't know" ohhhhhh you didn't know silly me, I THOUGHT YOU KNEW *slaps back* don't worry about it, go ahead you're free.
cptkirk
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Interesting Comment From an Active Elder
by DarioKehl ini was recently speaking to an elder "off the record" while helping him do some house repairs.
i have a comfortable enough relationship to speak openly with him about things, but am careful to disclose the extent of my disbelief in wt doctrine.
anyway, this guy wouldn't last a day in the mafia because he can't keep anything confidential.
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History of JWN
by El_Guapo inhi guys,.
i was going through some old threads (love this site) and i came across someone mentioning in a post that this site started as gathering place for jw's and somehow became an "apostate" site.
lol .
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I came to this site after realizing the tatt. had done some fishing on it previous to that but not much. i think that when the shit hit the fan, i remembered this site and realized it was the perfect venue to unleash because nobody in my real life really gives a shit about hearing anything about this subject matter. my intense anger is centered around 1 thing and only 1 thing only; the notion/principle of a group of individuals claiming *absolute* truth, and demanding *absolute* obedience, when they have a history of bungling one thing after the other. that is what drives my anger, and thinking about all the decent people who have been injured by this concept, because that is all it is in a nutshell, is a concept. truth, absolutism, obedience....all whilst knowing your doctrine has failed and failed and failed, yet continuing in this recalcitrant state of mind regardless of facts and evidence.
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THE TRUTH is like a diaper
by Terry inthe truth is like a diaper.
this is why they change it so often.. the older truth is like the older diaper.
that is why it isn't good for anything.. new light is like the fresh diaper.
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WHO IS THAT SEXY BEAST?
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THE TRUTH is like a diaper
by Terry inthe truth is like a diaper.
this is why they change it so often.. the older truth is like the older diaper.
that is why it isn't good for anything.. new light is like the fresh diaper.
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TERRY, TWO WORDS: NEW LIGHT!!!!!
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May 15 2013 WT: "REAL elders skip meals and lose sleep!"
by cedars infinally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.
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6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.
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sorry to say but this is actually the main rift i think between people like me and the head honchos. when i read the bible it tells me that jesus was the messiah and that he showed us how we should conduct ourselves and i thought that was good....i believe that there is a deeper message though, why do i believe that? well because it says that heh. that message is look, you need to take care of your families you need to love yourself etc. in other words you are honoring god by taking care of your families and also by showing yourself a degree of love, in the sense that you eat healthy food and listen to what your body tells you (the same way you listen to what your body tells you if you lean on a hot stove) it's telling you GTFO off the stove...you don't just keep leaning on it. that these are some of the under pinnings of the bible itself....in fact, it says that if you aren't doing these things, you may as well forget it, because any other good things you do are going to be ignored.
this is big, and for whatever reason i don't know, these guys at the top have a fundamental disagreement with this line of thought.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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please post the reference to death upon taking emblem
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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oh btw if the points were not fully clear, the bible...or is it WT dogma? can't remember, but i know somewhere that it says in bold print: if you partake of the emblems and are not anointed, that you will die.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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The answer is clear then: (spaceballs voice over) just keep producing more anointed ! and from some of the time that i've spent in rural areas of the USA, and what i've seen that goes on in these rural areas.......between all the folks sleeping under bridges and ned the winos roaming around on memorial night (most of whom are partakers of the emblems) they should be good to go. (this is not a add hominem for those who do not know what is going on in rural america) this is really actually happening. i've even seen dubs in the middle of the memorial come so close to losing their tempers and ripping the plate out of the hands of these people, before they could "partake"....wonder what the GB has to say about that one.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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80 something hits and nobody knows? i will make one then, hmmm let's see.....what is a good end date......well, probably be good to make it around the time of a presidential election because the crazies REALLY love that kind of thing, i mean that gets them out in droves...hmmm let's see......hmm hmmmm also the IMF predicts that 2016 will be the year that CHINA surpasses the USA economically hmmm hmm hmmmm hmm let's see hmm mmmmm hmmmmmm hmmm ok let's see, 2016 for CHINA will be year of the monkey which is described as " Confident to a fault, the seldom give two hoots to the opinions of others."
ok this is perfect because the antichrist will be also not caring about shit what other people think. so there it is folks, 2016 is the new end.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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what is the jw stance currently? that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything? oh you speak bad things you judge. we shouldn't judge the founders and their involvement with pyramidology, but we should be judging people for oral sex?? please explain that and i will be all ears. don't judge the founders who were being directly spoken to by the spirit but needed to use geomancy (which is i think bad right?), but judge some poor slob working at Denny's for having oral sex with his own wife, and send him off in the woods! maybe he will be stoned by the israelites out there for collecting sticks on the sabath. do not question this??? should my conscience bother me for asking questions like this? am i evil? is there even such a thing as good and evil? is a person who asks if there is such a thing as good an evil then incriminating themselves as evil? :!(