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  You know you can trust a man when...

  by usualusername in

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  he wears a belt and has clean shoes... .

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  if he wears his pants very high.
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  Jws and psychotropics vs. Jws and psychology as a science

  by cptkirk in

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  need to sleep, have finals to take this week, but i wanted to start this thread after i was writing a response to a different thread, this total contradiction dawned on me.

  the jws sanction the members to take various prescription drugs for mental disorders small and large, but yet they deny the science of psychology, the same people who are giving them the drugs?

  is that a total contradiction or what?

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  Going to answer my own thread. i think that they do not acknowledge good science for the same reason that they must tell people that their elders are appointed directly by god. the same reason that they hold this mindset that everyone in the cong is squeeky clean because if they weren't they would be DF'ed. and what is that reason? that reason is haughty pride and egomania.

  they do not want to admit that their people are suffering from the same afflictions as everyone else. they want to go into that kh and lie to themselves telling themselves that this might be jose that works at pizza hut, but really he is this wonderful spiritual being walking in direct step with god. if they had to really look at the science and say so and so is a borderline personality, or so and so has major denial issues, or this or that......they couldn't do it, why? because the one trait that is supposed to define them, doesn't even exist, which is love. because love doesn't care if you have xyz, love doesn't need to see you as some sort of epic spiritual person so that they can speak respectfully to you and talk to you like a friend. love doesn't care if you have xyz diagnosis, because love is going to ignore that and focus on what is good about you. but they can't , they need to tell themselves things that aren't true to compensate for the fact that they are bereft of their supposed true identifying mark.

  there are a thousand places that i could have gone to play the status game, i went to the jws because i thought that was a sanctuary from this, and it turns out to be no different. status leads to war, if we all want to kill each other then lets do it, but let's understand why we are doing it before we do it.

  edit: status inherently does not lead to war, but status as a prime mover does.
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  Jws and psychotropics vs. Jws and psychology as a science

  by cptkirk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  need to sleep, have finals to take this week, but i wanted to start this thread after i was writing a response to a different thread, this total contradiction dawned on me.

  the jws sanction the members to take various prescription drugs for mental disorders small and large, but yet they deny the science of psychology, the same people who are giving them the drugs?

  is that a total contradiction or what?

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  need to sleep, have finals to take this week, but i wanted to start this thread after i was writing a response to a different thread, this total contradiction dawned on me. the jws sanction the members to take various prescription drugs for mental disorders small and large, but yet they deny the science of psychology, the same people who are giving them the drugs? is that a total contradiction or what? i don't know that they come outright and say we are opposed to psychology as a science, but i do know that if you start talking about "borderline personality" or anything along those lines, you are going to get some nasty looks. and also, in my experience if you just ask them outright, they will just say psychology is(too tired to think of the word) not gobbledgook, what is that word? damnit, but they basically say it's a bunch of bullshit in polite terms. that seems to be the consensus but i don't know that it is written down anywhere. so its a bunch of bullshit, but feel free to take their drugs that they give you.
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses and psychiatric diagnoses?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  jehovahs witnesses and psychiatric diagnoses?.

  today i added a new article to my blog sharing information from a 1983 study published in the journal for the scientific study of religion addressing religious affiliation and psychiatric diagnoses.

  this article pulls information from an excellent academic study that is often misunderstood and therefore underutilized for its value.

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  in the most simplistic terms just think of it like this: if you had a car and your mentality was that the car was riding by the power of jehovah, what would happen over time? everything would start going bad on the car, over time...flat tires, out of alignment, transmission failure, engine failure, broke struts, etc etc. well we know that the car is not running by jehovah, the car is running based on physics and many many components which work together to provide a working vehicle. you take the car to the mechanic and he diagnoses it and fixes it.

  jehovah's witnesses pretty much believe that psychology is a pseudoscience. they do not educate themselves on the mechanics of the mind, and the procedures necessary to re-calibrate or fix this mechanism called the human being. granted, psychology does not have all the answers, but it has many of them.

  the same way that a jehovah's witness having their menstral cycle would not pray for the blood to stop, they should not pray for the broken mind to stop either. they should take the necessary actions to fix it. granted once again, they do have plenty of their members taking xyz drug for depression anxiety and so on ,which is fine, if that works for them, good. what they do not do, is educate themselves based on the science (not pseudoscience) of psychology and then take actions necessary to rectify whatever behaviorial aberrations may arise. and brother, the behavioral aberrations they are uh many among those folks. they have to be the most passive aggressive people on earth, and does this set a good example? hell no. it creates a society of a bunch of back stabbin bitches. if you are going to stab me, at least do it in the chest with some honor.

  steve2 said: When I was active, I observed that new "converts" often brought with them their old hang-ups - mental and emotional - into the organization, although outwardly they appeared "improved" (nice respectable haircuts, better dressed, cleaner shaved etc).

  there you go, and what is going to fix that? education in psychology. but no, to them that is pseudoscience. yet they allow them to take the drugs of the pseudoscientists, but they do not allow them to be educated in the same field that is producing these drugs? that should be a new topic right there. maybe i'll make it later if someone else doesn't.
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  Where and who will be the next pope...

  by mP in

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  im picking an italian from the north, i just dont know his name.

  if i get this right, im of course the new messiah(tm).. lars:.

  1/who does god want to be his representative on earth ?.

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  Recorded Judicial Meeting by 19 year old

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  he runs circles around the dogmatic elders.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.

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  the thing that cracks me up and is similar in many cases, is the person who is on the barrel end of the jc makes the assumption that they will be given this time for fair discussion, and they proceed to try and conduct the jc as if everyone was level headed and reasonable. what they don't realize is that the elders have about 0 patience for this, and they are just dying to stick their fangs into your neck and then tell you that you are disfellowshipped. they don't care how smart or clever you are, and they really don't care if you truly are a humble and decent empathetic person, because in their minds they are seeing the graphic that outlaw posted (guy with cig in his mouth and blindfolded waiting to take 20 rounds to the chest).....as dave mustaine would say, OBEY!#
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  music: no hidden catch, no strings attached

  by J. Hofer in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zzikogwila8.

  share some of this kind.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBpTCvJPCJs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdOHxh9-1Yo
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  question regarding humans only using a small percentage of the brain

  by Matsimus in

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  hello, i want to discuss with my mother about jws saying we only use a small percentage, and that we will use the entire brain when we become perfect in the paradise.

  if someone could provide me with som references or quotes about this from the literature, i would really appreciate it.

  thanks in advance :).

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  my college books say that it is a myth:

  One of the most popular myths in psychology is that we use only 10 percent of our brain. This myth might have begun with early research showing that approximately three-fourths of the cortex is “uncommitted” (with no precise, specific function responsive to electrical brain stimulation). These areas are not dormant, however. They are clearly involved in interpreting, integrating, and acting on information processed by other parts of the brain. They are called association areas because they associate, or connect, various areas and functions of the brain. The association areas in the frontal lobe, for example, help in decision making and planning. Similarly, the association area right in front of the motor cortex is involved in the planning of voluntary movement. (Carpenter 54-55)

  Carpenter, Siri. Visualizing Psychology, 2nd Edition. John Wiley & Sons, 2009.
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  Time of Trouble: Knocking on the Door of Jehovah's Witnesses (interesting article)

  by ldrnomo in

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  found this article on gawker.com.

  check it out i'd like to get your thoughts:.

  http://gawker.com/5986407/time-of-trouble-knocking-on-the-door-of-the-jehovahs-witnesses?post=57721553.

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  I read about 40% of this; the guy seems to have a very lucid perspective, and after reading what i did, i think i felt more ashamed then ever before to have called myself a jw at one time. the description about the inside being like a funeral parlor (paraphrasing) really hit me. before i stopped going to meetings, this is exactly how i felt going in that hall. there were so many disturbed individuals in that kh....and yet so determined not to be the one to fall away (as the gossip which ensues subsequent to a fader is wicked beyond belief)...and they are all so determined not to be that person of great mockery....yet they are all miserable out of their minds.....i wonder to myself what the next step is for them. i am so happy to be out of there, regardless of what my own fate may be, at least it will be *my own* fate.
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  Don't hear Jws mentioned in the grand conspiracies often

  by cptkirk in

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  at 57:50 he just starts diving into jws out of no where.

  gotta give the guy credit at least, he really got ahead of the game because this video is pretty old.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyvabqgtbds.

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  go ahead scan it. might be old news but sometimes you find something out that you may have missed before.