just had a conversation with my mom about 13 million spent on defending and losing court cases by the society.. i argued that they can't argue against the catholics when they themselves are guilty of the same.. she replied she didn't care.
(after sending them $100,000.00 dollars) she stated that the catholic church had spent billions defending them selves and if the jw's had only spent millions .
that the society had spent billions sending a message, and if i didn't like their message then leave her alone and the rest of the group.. i am burning with rage......i was accused of trying to destroy her beliefs, and if i was not in agreement to reject the entire religion........which of course i have already done many moons ago.. r..
At least your mother still speaks to you. From a past post, you seem to have a fairly relaxed relationship, given that she is a hardcore dub.
It is impossible to change someone else. The only attitude you get to be in charge of is your own. It's hard, but best to let it go.
Here's my prescription: Take a relaxing aromatherapy bath, light some candles, put on some calming music, pour yourself a glass of good wine, and enjoy. Just remember not to drown in the bathtub.
Regards,
SandraC
here was her first post about an hour ago, tucked into another thread.
: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/142152/2551916/post.ashx#2551916.
i have been df'd for about 2 1/2 years now.
Welcome, angeleyes. As someone else pointed out, it seems that you need to make friends with people who like you for the individual you are, not because you are blindly loyal to an organization. Counseling or group therapy could be useful as well.
For now, why not leave off being scared that you will die at Armageddon and just take each day as it comes? I was expecting Armageddon to come by 1975, and here I am more than 30 years later. Guess what! If Armageddon did come in or around 1975, I survived. You will, too.
Keep coming back. You need the support offered here. Live in the present and enjoy this day that you have, okay?
Regards,
SandraC
i've been on online dating sites for a while, have exchanged emails with over 100 guys (politely saying "thanks, but no thanks" to the vast majority) and went on dates with a few.
i'm generally disappointed in the emails these guys sent and have been disappointed in the dates.
i'm not sure if the problem is with my expectations or if there is just a lack of communications skills and courtesy among people.
You should consider yourself lucky that he was so forthcoming on the first meeting. Like eclipse, I totally endorse what BizzyBee said. This guy is really bad news.
Lose him now if you know what's good for you. There are nice guys out there.
Regards,
SandraC
for the new 'jw only, don't you damn apostates dare look at and analyze it anymore watchtower' dated january 2008.. any bets as to whether we will see an issue before the rank and file?.
jeff .
This is too funny! I'm much more interested in the Watchtower now than when I was a dub.
so i was talking with an girlfriend that i had (actually the only friend i had in 'the truth').
we have recently reconnected, and she's still on the fence as to whether or not to go back into the org.
however, her aunt, an elder's wife and all-around snot rocket, let her know what was going on in the truth (i'm guessing to get her to come back full-time cause 'look at all that's happening, and it's the end!
'look at all that's happening, and it's the end!' - which reminds me of early 90s, personally.
And reminds me of the late '60's and early '70's, and would remind others of other times when the "end" was imminent. And the lies go on.....
Regards,
SandraC
those who aren't in the truth i feel much pity for you.
all of you are filled with much hatred and anger that all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion.
i feel sorry for you that you will not have ever lasting life.
Oh, in the title of your post, you write "JEHOVAH WITNESSES." It's Jehovah's Witnesses. Are you really a JW or just not up to speed on English grammar?
those who aren't in the truth i feel much pity for you.
all of you are filled with much hatred and anger that all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion.
i feel sorry for you that you will not have ever lasting life.
Welcome to the forum. In general, the voice of dissent is welcome. It makes us think, and thinking is good for the brain, the body and the soul.
Don't pity me. I have a good life. I wish the same for you.
As for missing out on "everlasting" life, there is no solid evidence to convince me that I am missing out. I do have this moment for sure.
Something in me makes me very resentful when people tell me how I feel, as if anyone else could know. Everyone feels hatred at one time or another, as well as anger and every other emotion. What of it? We get over it and move on if we wish to be healthy.
Regards,
SandraC
so, missanna and i go to lunch today.
we go for chinese food.
i am considering giving up mechanic work and going into sales.
Too cool, bigd! I did hear of lottery winners who played the numbers on the back of those fortunes.
As to whether you should go into sales, would you be able to go back to your former occupation if you didn't like it?
Regards,
SandraC
often, i find myself doing google searches for people who i went to kh with years and years ago.
i try to find clues of what they're up to, search out the ones who were "weak in their faith", and try to see if they are still hanging on, or have "fallen away from the truth".
i look for people my own age to find out what they're doing.
Welcome, bbd. I, too, try to check up on some of the people I really liked when I was a dub, although I live far away from there now.
As for Dr. Laura, I'm a great fan. I agree that she is not always likeable; nevertheless, she has solid values, and, best of all, she puts children's interests first. She knows more about JW's than you might think, as the subject of family relationships with JW's has come up before on her program. She was quite right (as usual) about the advice she gave the young JW you mention in your post. Dr. Laura is hard on women who are not like her, who are softer and lacking in the kind of support she had from her family. That is the one blind spot I have found her to have.
Regards,
SandraC
i did not want to hijack this great thread that booker-t started:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/142032/1.ashxon the trinity.. i know the supporting scriptures for the trinity in the new testament.... i was wondering, are there any ones that support the trinity, or even a dual-god in the old testament?.
thank you in advance for all of your comments and scriptures.. .
In a religion course I took, one of the first things the professor addressed was the difference between the OT and NT concepts of G-d. The Jewish equivalent of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" is "the Lord our god is One."
I hope Moshe or other Jewish posters will weigh in on this one.
