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  I apologize, and will .

  by talesin in

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  2. friends

  i apologise for not replying to pm's from the past couple of days ... pain and dealing with it has made me a 'bad' correspondent ..... .

  tomorrow, sunday, i'm gonna check my msgs and get back to you .. i'm sorry!.

  with much love,.

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  Mum

  It causes more than physical discomfort to be in pain. It has a psychological impact, too. Take good care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else. They'll understand.
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  How many people got baptized as JW before and after the internet era?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who is willing to figure it out for us?

  thanks!.

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  Mum

  There has been a downward trend since 1997. Probably a lot of the baptisms since then are children of born-ins. 1997 is when I started using the internet, so I think it may mean something.
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  Need advice in my fade

  by dissonance_resolved in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm about 4 months into my fade- things were going ok at first.

  if i didn't get ready to go to the meeting or fs, neither did my family.

  recently, hubby has become more sensitive and now will take the family whether i go or not.

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  Mum

  You might talk to them about what they "learned" at the meetings, not because you're interested in the BS but because you will feel involved in what they're doing. Plan some fun activities with the kids on non-meeting days and evenings. Talk to a counselor about books for kids their age that might teach them critical thinking skills. Be sure thay know that you love them and what you're doing is not a reflection on them and has nothing to do with your feelings for them.

  It sounds like they're old enough to reason things out, so just drop some thoughtful comments into the conversation from time to time.

  Stand your ground. Things take time. Your best asset right now is patience.
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  Hello from Rooster McDooster

  by RoosterMcDooster in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  [if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:donotoptimizeforbrowser /> </w:worddocument> </xml><![endif].

  i've been lurking around here for a while, so i feel like i know most of you already.

  its been a rough 20 years getting here, but now here i am.

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  Mum

  Don't worry. No one here will pressure you to get "baptized" or otherwise "committed" (pun intended), then watch you like a hawk, have others spy on you, and kick you out because the Thought Police suspect you of disagreeing with us. We don't agree on anything, so you're safe. Our disagreement is very agreeable, btw. The exchange of ideas and viewpoints can be very stimulating (i.e., the one thing we have in common with the WT is that we offer you a meaningless free "college education" without a degree.)

  Roosters are very trendy right now, I think. People decorate with them a lot.

  Congratulations and welcome!
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  Why do JWs get married at a young age?

  by XPeterX in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ages like 20-25 or younger.i mean damn,a 21 year old guy in my congo got baptised a couple weeks back and now his in a relationship with a jw gal and their getting married soon.any thoughts?.

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  Mum

  They have no goals or anything to look forward to. Worldly kids are looking forward to college and career, fun times and broadening their horizons.

  Add sex to that, and you've got the "reasons" JW's want to get married before they're eligible to have a driver's license!
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  BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.

  i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.

  because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.

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  Mum

  talesin: I don't quite understand your reasoning. It's like you're saying Wal-Mart can't built a store until K-Mart makes their store all that it can be. Am I missing something? Please clarify.

  There can be as many apostate groups as there are churches in Christendom as far as I'm concerned. They all serve different kinds of people with different ways of thinking.

  My goals would be:

  • Inform schools about JW students. Work with guidance counselors to help them understand what JW kids may be going through.
  • Have a crisis line for JW's who need someone to talk to live. (Not sure how this would be financed.)
  • Have a presentation for "apostates" to take to churches and Sunday schools to inform church people of the real issues of becoming a JW.
  • Print brochures to pass out in neighborhoods with information and questions to ask JW's when they show up at the door.

  That's a preliminary list. I'm sure there are many other ideas you guys have.
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  Those who went to University whilst being a JW

  by MMXIV in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've read a number of posts in the brief couple of years i've been on jwn of those that were brave enough to go to university whilst being a jw.. clearly this is a small fraction of those that wanted to go but couldn't or had the grades to go but accepted pioneering instead.. for those that did go to uni despite all the advice and pressure, why did you go?

  what was the response when you broke the news?

  how did it affect your relationships?

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  Mum

  When I graduated from high school, I went to college for two years. I became inactive. The JW thing was always at the back of my mind, so I did not enjoy the experience as I should have. I got letters from JW friends in my old congregation, and they were not condemnatory or judgmental. Sometimes I would get visits from people at the local congregation, and they were actually nice. Once in a while, one of them would pick me up and take me to a meeting. I was very lucky because my family were not JW's, so I didn't have to deal with fighting them.

  In 1977, the year my daughter started kindergarten, I took two courses a semester for about 3 semesters. I had obtained permission(!) from my elder husband only after I had gone into a deep, catatonic depression. He told me I could go back to school if I got over the "I don't care thing." He warned me that it had not better cost him a dime.

  Members of my non-JW family paid my tuition. I felt hopeful again. 1975 was gone, and I had a talk with myself about the possibility that I might actually have to live in this "system" into old age, and I needed knowledge and job skills.

  Then I had to take a physical for school. My elder husband woke me up at 5:00 AM to remind me that the physical would cost money, and I had promised it wouldn't cost him a dime. I went to the doctor, who told me I had fibroid tumors and gave me two prescriptions. I threw the prescriptions in the trash in order not to spend any more money.

  I enjoyed my classes and made excellent grades. This did not convince my husband that it was a good thing for me to be taking the classes.

  I was continuing meetings and service, but it was more and more difficult every day. An elder asked me what classes I was taking. When I told him, he said, "You can teach English in the New Order," and gave me a smirky smile.

  Nobody else had much to say, but I know they were uncomfortable with me by their attitude when they talked to me.

  There were other non-college related issues that made me realize that I had to get away to preserve my sanity. So I moved to the other end of the country where I had a cousin who took me in. I was still a true believer for about two more years. As far as I know, I was never DF'd.

  Anyway, since then, life has been much better because I've been free.
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  Online Dating

  by love_ever_wanting in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  what does everyone think, is dating avenues really that big of a deal?

  i have been told by everyone on my congregation to not trust online dating.

  especially if this is supposed to be the "truth".

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  Mum

  LEW: My main objection to going online to start a relationship is that the people there must be rather desperate. Otherwise, wouldn't they be likely to meet someone in a more conventional way?

  If you want to be a JW and marry a JW, remember that he will be the "head of the household" simply by virtue of anatomy, not because he is wiser or smarter or more knowledgeable than you. I doubt if you will like it. I didn't.

  If you marry and JW and have children, oh my! They won't be allowed to go to their little friends' birthday parties, will stick out like a sore thumb at school because they don't participate in holidays, extracurricular activities, sports, etc. Worst of all, if there were an emergency in which your child required a blood transfusion, you would be expected to let your child die.

  Be very careful. Get pre-marital counseling. Make sure you both agree on what is right and wrong about everything in life.

  Be careful. Be careful. Be careful. Be careful. I can't say it enough: be careful!
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  Minnesotan Jehovah Witnesses, - Can you help Jehovah Witness victims of Child Sex Abuse and Non Jehovah Witness victims in your state ?

  by Sol Reform in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  minnesotan jehovah witnesses, - can you help jehovah witness victims of child sex abuse and non jehovah witness victims in your state ?.

  please inform your representative /senator to pass the child victims act.

  minnesota house bill 681. http://legiscan.com/mn/text/hf681/id/748605 .

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  There is a poster on here called Gopher who lives in Minnesota. I don't know about any of the others.
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  I'M SERIOUS!!!! If you eat cupcakes you will die at the Big "A"

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just doing dishes not really thinking about anything in particular, and all of a sudden this experience came flooding back and i started crying.. a few years ago i went back to one of the states i lived in to see/visit my friends (before i learned ttatt, i was still a happy borg at this time).. the friends i were staying with had two young girls, one was 3rd grade and the other was preschool.

  so one day the father comes home after picking up the older girl (i think she was 7, 8...i'm not sure exactly this was several years ago) and she was all red and looked like she had been crying.

  i noticed she had some blue at the corner of her mouth.

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  JW kids' teachers need to be taught not to leave evidence at the corner of a child's mouth on birthdays and holidays. School counselors need to be notified when kids' parents are JW's, but I don't know what they can do to mitigate a situation like this one.