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  Are you a dabbler in Witchcraft?

  by StopTheTears in

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  after leaving christianity it's common especially among the young to experiment with witchcraft.

  some get drawn into it by getting involved with earth movements and back to nature groups.. .

  witchcraft is an evil thing.

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  Mum

  I dabble in whatever presents itself. I have friends from many different belief traditions, and they dabble, too. I am a sort of dilettante, and enjoy knowing something about as many concepts, ideas, philosophies, phenomena, etc. that I can. The only thing I judge is behavior. If people want to dance naked in the moonlight with menstrual blood on their faces, where's the harm? If people beat small children with sticks, belts, shoes, or other objects, that does harm.

  Don't worry about what anyone else believes unless they try to force it on others or do harm with it, although the belief doesn't do the harm; the practice / behavior does.

  It is not sound to choose beliefs and practices based on what someone thinks of it. It is sound to consider whether it does harm or not.
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  Michael Jackson's kids decide no more going door-to-door

  by Gopher in

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  this article made my day.

  it looks like paris jackson and her brother prince michael have told katherine they simply aren't interested in peddling jw stuff from door-to-door any more.

  i'm glad they are becoming their own people and emerging from their grandmother's control.. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/paris-jackson-prince-michael-jackson-jehovas-witness/.

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  Mum

  If you had zillions of dollars to donate to the Watchtower in lieu of going out in service, wouldn't you do it? I always believed the stuff celebrity JW's could do that the rest of us couldn't had to be because of what they had to offer in cash and free publicity for the WT. However, I never heard of anyone being converted to JW because of any of those celebs. Who knows?

  Good for Paris and Prince. It's a little scary, though, to think of people their age having so much power. At that age, kids usually need to be reined in a lot.
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  Share the Craziest far out ideas/arguments you have heard about life in the "NEW SYSTEM"

  by BU2B in

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  really the whole thing is ludicrious but it is hilarious and sad at the same time to see grown people arguing about weather there will be cars, planes, eat meat, what about fish, etc in a place as imaginary as oz, yet to them it is reality.. the teaching of a paradise earth was so illogical it really was the first thing that started me on the path to waking up.

  just the thought that someone could greet their beloved spouse who had died only to come to the realization that they could never be together again struck me as so cruel, i didnt want to live there even if it was all true.. i have heard jws say they think we might be able to fly, read minds since we will be able to use 100% and some seem to think life would be an endless vacation, with modern conveniences with no thought to all the processes and work that goes into something simple like a pencil.

  i love the article jwfacts has on the flaws of any theory or teaching of paradise earth.. what are some things you have heard discussed/argued in car groups, gatherings etc when you were in?.

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  I remember a discussion about whether there would be money in the "new order." One person argued that Adam and Eve didn't have money, while the other argued that there would have to be a medium of exchange. Also related to children was speculation as to whether babies and children who had died would be resurrected as babies and children or as adults.

  Another wacky one was that, eventually, there would be no more children. At some point, the earth would be "full" and no more children would be born. I never heard the one about populating other planets; I thought that one was exclusive to Mormons.
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  Creepy, too true to jw life game intro.

  by stuckinamovement in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6guw7vxnhtu .

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  Mum

  Great video, stuck. "Perfection" is not what it's cracked up to be.
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  Pay Day - oh no payment....again.

  by LouBelle in

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  this has developed into a regular habit now.

  i work for this company i don't partucularly want to work for, but in order to get a salary i do.

  (trust me i'm looking for better options) every single month, bar one, they have have paid me late.

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  Yes, you should be looking for another job. The important issue for you, though, is your credit history and having to make payments late.

  I don't know about South Africa, but here in the States, most creditors will work with you if you call them, or notify them in writing, as to why your payments are late. Request that they waive late fees and not put it on your credit report because it is not your fault. It is your employer, not you, who is a bad credit risk.
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  This thread is for people that do not really understand the control mechanisms of the Watchtower Society

  by Iamallcool in

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  please feel free to explain the control mechanisms of the watchtower society.

  thank you!.

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  Mum

  Read 1984 by George Orwell, and there it is. Big Brother is watching you at all times, and everyone else works for him as a spy.

  You do not have the basic human rights to:

  • Choose your own friends
  • Wear fashionable clothes or anything that may draw attention to yourself
  • Disagree with males, regardless of how ignorant or uninformed or downright stupid they may be
  • Express your own thoughts or opinions
  • Have your own thoughts and opinions
  • etc.
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  WT SHUNNING POLICY: What has it done, or could it do to you?

  by flipper in

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  hi y'all, this is mrs. flipper.

  please share your experiences with this, or possible consequences of being outed.. this recent controversy and resulting arguments all stem from people being outed - possibly losing friends and family because most jw's will blindly follow the watchtower's rules to shun them.. among people i know and experiences read here, the grief and loss caused by this is terrible, and maybe now is a good time to put up some experiences here, and put the focus on the worst villians of all - wt policymakers..

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  My ex-husband won't speak to his (and my) daughter. She was never baptized, she did nothing to harm anyone, so there's no "reason." He lives in another state. He told her friend that my daughter wouldn't speak to him. LIE!
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  just arrived here...

  by sylvlef in

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  hi all.. i'm a newbie from paris, france.

  so please forgive my english grammar, it might be some times...improper.

  27, got baptised at 16 (for a girl...i never had).

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  Bienvenue!
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  How to fade?

  by naazira in

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  i am suppose to become an unbaptized publisher in a few days.

  however ive changed my mind.

  i finished my bible study and progressing in the org.

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  Mum

  Welcome! You are so doing the right thing to jump ship while you still have your life in front of you. You do not owe anyone any explanation for anything you do. If you have strong feelings about any aspect of what you wish to do, I recommend Dr. Wayne Dyer's first book, Your Erroneous Zones. I read it just before I got free, and it helped me immensely in dealing with negative emotions.

  So now you're free to be educated, spend your weekends enjoying life, and looking forward to the future.

  Best wishes.
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  "Something amusing to get you reading my post"

  by frogonmytoe in

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  i have been reading threads on here for months, having not been to a meeting in about 3 years, and spending the year prior to that avoiding them.

  considering i am gay and now live with my boyfriend, i think we can consider me officially drifted, or fallen away, or whatever semantic nonsense the wts uses for specifying the manner of our waking up.

  anyway, i thought it about time i said hello and hopefully make some new friends with whom i can talk about things.

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  Mum

  Welcome, frog. I live in the U.S., the entertainment capital of the world, Las Vegas, Nevada. It's a far cry from where I grew up.

  Thanks to me (?!), my cousin (now deceased) who was gay became a JW. He was DF'd for homosexual behavior. He told me that the elders asked him to describe every detail of the sex he had. He was disgusted with them. Obviously, most of them have no life of their own and get their jollies hearing about those who do.

  A few years after he was DF'd and moved to the other end of the U.S., I needed desperately, for my mental health, to get away from my JW elder husband. My gay cousin offered to help me in whatever way possible. So I moved 'way out west, and he took me in.

  I am not from a family of JW's. Just a few of us got involved because my dad's boss was a JW, and he was a very nice man, i.e., probably not a typical JW in certain ways.