The most damning "apostate literature" is aged Watchtower literature.
Posts by Mum
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Out with the old....
by wha happened? ini purchased a condo late last year and due to my personal schedule, i wasn't able to redo it to my preferance until a few months ago.
all the heavy work is done.
now just replacing electrical outlets, fixtures and such.
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Time for this Newbie to say - Hello everyone!
by SeventhSojourn inin just the several months i've been lurking here, i have benefited from many of the posters comments and viewpoints.
this is truly a special place for the unique community that has been created here.. after years of holding off my exit from the org (that may be another post) i recently became officially out (by letter of da), but it was a very difficult process as many of you know.
thankfully, i now have my wife (was also a witness) onboard and we support each other.
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Mum
Hi, 7th. Welcome to the real world, a world of possibilities and ideas! Angharad is Simon's wife, who works very hard to keep this board going. I'm sure she's much more than "just" Simon's wife, but that's the simplest explanation.
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Has anybody had JWs call on your home lately?
by Scarred for life ini did today.
the woman brought a small brochure inviting me to the district convention here in gwinnett county, georgia on july 5, 6, and 7th.
the surprising thing to me is that the jws have modernized a little bit.
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Mum
About 6 months ago, two "sisters" knocked on the door. I had just moved here (Las Vegas). I have no history as a JW here or anywhere else since 1979. So I told them outright that I was an "apostate." The older woman just kept talking, as if I should believe her fairy tales and want to come back into the fold. I just stared at her incredulously, and she kept blathering for several minutes. The other woman didn't say a word, and showed no facial expression. Whatever!
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My response to any one who asks why I am fading
by Skinnedsheep ini have thought a lot about what to say when i am approached.
it will kill my fade, but oh well.. "after the new light i had to test my faith and i couldn't prove to myself that the slave was limited to the governing body.".
if cornered by an elder...."can you prove to me from the scriptures that matt.
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Mum
Asking them to "prove" anything will just lead to a lot of blathering and assertions with nothing to back them up. They do not think according to logic or science. You don't really owe them an explanation, but if you just want them to go away, some good ones have been suggested.
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What flexibility exists when an JW sister marries an Unbeleaver?
by Quarterback inhow does this work out?
does the christian wife now go along to show respect to her husband, in celebrating holidays, voting, where does she draw the line?.
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Mum
In the '70's, I was part of a congregation that had some sisters married to unbelieving mates.
One of the husbands was a sociopath, and he and his JW wife had been divorced and remarried about 5-6 times (no lie!). The kids were rebellious and behaved badly. I don't know if they're still dubs or not.
Another husband was a sweetheart who gave his family a good life. Eventually, he became a publisher. Not long after that, the whole family left the borg. The mom got a secretarial job at the university. The daughter became a French teacher. The son became a reporter, and has won a lot of awards. The daughter told me that she got to go to cousins' birthday parties as a child. The exposure to the freedom of being "worldly" was very beneficial in this case.
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If Jesus was a live today would he have a morning TV show?
by jam instart your day off with jesus.
paul would probably have a. a morning show, "why women should stay in the kitchen".. i love to see, " start your day with the 144000".
explain our unique belief, no phone calls please.. i,m sure the program would receive high rating.
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Mum
Maybe it would be an analysis of the Sermon on the Mount, parables, and admonition to avoid JW's and others who would mislead.
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Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!
by sosoconfused inhttp://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.
of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.
253 acres???
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Mum
My money's on what "lost" said.
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Confused
by molybdenum ini read the words of robert king.
he really made me think.
his words were like a water spring.
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Mum
Being a JW works for some people. You may be one of them, but I don't know you. You need to do some research, read Steven Hassan's books and other books about cults, then make a list of pros and cons about staying in and getting out.
Do you have family who are JW's? Do you want to pursue higher education? If you're in a serious accident, do you want freedom to choose the medical treatment you may need to save your life? If you have children, do you want them to have a negative view of all who are not JW's? Do you want to shun people who were seen smoking a cigarette or having lunch with someone the JW's disapprove of?
It is best not to make an emotional decision. Think it through. Decide what your priorities are.
I hope you make the decision that is right for you and the people important to you.
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What you THINK ... v What you KNOW ....
by *lost* inwhat you think you would do hypothetically.. what you know you would do in reality.. this is the 'hypothetical' story.
young man finishes his days work, he works in construction, he is wearing his 'kit' tool belt, boots, he's on foot.. one day, he's walking down the street.. he see's an elderly lady, and a group of 3 people, 2 male, 1 female, who have a dog.
(large mongrel).
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Mum
I am an old lady, so I would lurk into the shadows and dial 911.
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Slowly Awakening at the DC 2013
by breakfast of champions inso after the district convention was over, i asked my wife what her overall impression was.
she said, "maybe something has changed, or maybe it's your influence that i see things differently now, but a lot of those talks sounded more threatening than anything.
not loving, not really hopeful, just threatening.
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Mum
Good progress! The last convention I remember attending was about fear. They were talking about how "safe" everyone was inside Jehovah's organization and how dangerous it would be in the world. I had already left by then, so I was not starry-eyed about it in the first place.