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Posts by Mum
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51Was There ANYTHING The Watchtower Taught You That Benefited You?
by minimus inbesides learning how to speak publicly, has the watchtower given you any benefits?
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B.O.E. 13/01/14
by LucidChimp in"in minnesota, a man said to his visitors: "i saw you coming, so i went to get this book.
" he held up a bible teach book and said that when he was in prison, he stole the book.
when asked if he had read it, he replied that he was going to read it on the weekend while he was fishing.
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The yuk factor and others
by jgnat inwill you share with me an interesting discussion on what morals we all may have in common?
my recent reading has resulted in a fundamental shift in my worldview.
it feels like my house of cards have reshuffled themselves yet again, and everything i see, hear and smell is put in a new context.
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Mum
It takes a while to get your moral priorities in order after leaving the JW's behind. Wrapping a Christmas gift or a birthday gift, even giving such a gift -- all are "wrong" to JW's. That is batsh*t crazy! Punishing a child for eating a cupcake at a school birthday or holiday party is bizarre beyond belief! I feel so sad for children who grow up this way, not understanding what really is hurtful and harmful and what is not. I now see all JW's a child abusers, unwitting or not. These same children are taught to be gleeful that 99.99% of the world's population is going to become bird food! Sick! The biggest "yuk" factor, of course, is that they protect pedophiles.
JW's have a distorted view of sexual immorality as well. It no longer causes even a blip on my radar screen if someone is gay or cohabitating with a member of the opposite sex. JW's will protect a child molestor but disfellowship a person for having sex ONE TIME!
The way JW's spy on one another and turn one another in to the elders is now a worse sin, in my view, that whatever the person may have done to get turned in - except when someone hurt someone else (e.g., child molestation).
Discouraging education and human development is one of the greatest sins of the Watchtower.
I need to stop thinking about all this!
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Link to the WT library of things that you wont find on the WT Library
by BU2B ini just discovered a site today that has scans of most of the magazines/publications ever published by the wt bible and tract.
it is not an "apostate site" it just has the material and no commentary.
those of us trying to wake up jws may find this useful as we can show old quotes and publications without sending out red flags.. we are supposed to be proud of our spiritual heritge right??.
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NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"
by sir82 inhere is the text of the letter:.
february 2, 2014. .
your brothers,.
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Mum
All of these recommended "shepherding calls" may be seen by the GB as a way to force the hand of faders, i.e., to force them to write DA letters so the harassment will stop. They know faders don't want to play by their rules, so they're going to give those faders some incentive. It's best to move out of the area if you can.
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The kindness of (worldly) strangers
by moley inyesterday i went surfing, when i had finished and got changed i tried to start my car, no joy.
there were about 12 cars in the car park and the occupants of 8 of the cars all tried to help out at some point as they could see i was having difficulties, one guy even drove to a garage 5 miles away to get me a coffee i didn't even ask for as it was a freezing cold day and a couple of them let me sit in their cars to warm up while i waited for the rac.
contrast this to a time when i was in and my car wouldn't start (different car lol) in a kh car park and all i got was snarky comments, or advice in passing but no one stopped to help out.. i know who i prefer, has anyone else been helped by the evil worldly's while ignored by the loving jw's.
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Mum
I got "in trouble" with my elder husband twice for babysitting. Once I watched a sister's toddler so she could take her other preschooler to the dentist. Wrong! If she wasn't going out in service, I was not to babysit ever. The other occasion was when I babysat for our Bible study/student. I can't remember why. Anyway, her husband later complained about my husband's attitude.
After some time, I realized that I was not considered an adult, capable of deciding for myself when or how to be helpful. I also came to realize that I had been a better person before becoming a JW. The die was cast.
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...What do you Do,when People Ask You for Spare Change?...
by OUTLAW in.. .........................some people are truly in need..some are not... a man passing by on his 10 speed bike,asked me for $2.00 for a cup of coffee... .................................................."uhhh,no"... ............another asked me for spare change outside a super market... ......................................i said i didn`t have any... ...................so he say`s "how about a credit card?!"......lol!!...
.. ....................what do you do,when people ask you for spare change?...
..... .. ..........................................whats the most outrageous thing... ......................................you`ve been asked forby a stranger?...
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Mum
In Las Vegas I see beggars every time I go out. I keep cheese & crackers (the kind wrapped in cellophane) in my car to give them. I might give them a dollar or some change as well. I did see one beggar (from a parking lot) stop on the sidewalk, open his wallet and count his money. He was loaded!
I can't allow a few impostors keep me from helping someone who appears to be in dire need. A lot of them have really bad teeth, I've noticed.
Some years ago, Barbara Walters said it could save your life or well-being to give handouts. I keep that in mind, too.
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PRINCE: The Jehovah's Witness Hypocrisy
by Perversion of a truth injust saw this... definately worth a few laughs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmd_twvvvgq.
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Mum
There's a video on Youtube about an appearance of Prince on The View, a chat show mostly for women. On that Youtube clip, Sherri Shepard, allegedly a JW apostate, greets Prince enthusiastically and tells him how she has been "in love" with him for a long time. Prince does not spurn her or refuse to speak to her, although he does not show the same enthusiasm for her that she shows for him. He passed up a good opportunity to show American TV viewers what a horse's ass any JW is supposed to be when in the presence of "apostates."
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Advice on children
by Apostating inmy ex-wife got married in december last year.
so our visting arrangement with my children has changed.
there was a misunderstanding in our visiting arrangment, we agreed on that they would spend the weekends (once in two weeks) with me they would stay until sunday.
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Mum
As stated by someone else, your time with your children is YOURS. I would find out what the kids like to do for enjoyment and do various activities with them to crowd out "KH tine." You could let them take turns deciding what to do during their visit. The kids will remember how you made them FEEL, not so much what you said. If you want happy, well-adjusted children, you need to provide an atmosphere that fosters self-esteem and the ability to make appropriate choices, NOT the blind obedience of the WT.
You might want to talk to their teachers and other adults in their lives and explain the situation. You might also want to talk to a child development person about how to combat the blind obedience notion they are learning and the right strategies to teach them not to hurt or condemn others because they're not JW's.
Good luck!
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talked to wt. conductor about sundays study
by nowwhat? ini said i was concerned that they painted hezekiah as this champion of righteousness and how the article omitted when he paid tribute to assaria by looting the temple when he got scared.
and apparently he had an alliance with egypt, a pagan nation.
he said i was getting boged down with other references and missing the point.
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Mum
Warren Jeffs also teaches blind obedience to his FLDS patsies. It has resulted in child abuse, young men being thrown out/DF'd from the religiion so there are more teenage girls for the old men to "marry," endless anguish for women and girls, and, finally something good, a prison sentence for Warren Jeffs, "the Prophet." I have been watching some TV shows about people trying to escape that cult. My daughter turned to me the other evening and said, "See, Mom, you could have chosen an even worse cult."
Teaching obedience, particularly blind obedience, leaves people without the ability to make appropriate choices, without the ability to judge the greater good, co-dependent and weak. My motto is, "Enter into the joy of having no master."