The demons are the leftover figments of the imagination of ancient, ignorant people who had no explanation for disease, bad behavior or unexplainable occurrences. They give an easy explanation of things we can't understand.
Posts by Mum
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5Who do you think the DEMONS are?
by raymond frantz inthe watchtower teaches that the demons are the angels that came down here on earth right before the flood but research shows otherwise in this video i consider the identity of demons.if you never looked in this subject you will find this interesting ,let me know what you think.
https://youtu.be/m1zfyhmlyx0.
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New Religion
by crios ini need a new religion.
it can't be trinidadian and it must be a christian church.
it's been a while since i've been to the hall (and i'm not interested in returning either) and i need a new religion.
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Mum
Start your own religion. I understand it can lead to great wealth.
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What have you forgotten you ever even knew?
by Simon inat a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things.
typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.. i saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating.
now all i remember is that i used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ...
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Mum
I can easily remember things that happened or that I learned in the 1950's, but what happened last week - forgotten!
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How many partakers are here?
by bola ini am partaking of the bread and the wine today.
who else is partaking also?.
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Mum
I will not attend the Memorial - ever!
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Disfellowshipping
by jhine inso last night my bible study group was discussing the healing of the blind man in john's gospel.
ch 9 .
the man's parents were reluctant to say much on the subject.
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Mum
Barbara Grizutti Harrison compared the JW's to the medieval Catholic Church. As time goes on, they become more and more like Catholics (but a lot more cruel and heartless). I don't know where they came up with the idea of "disfellowshipping." Barbara Grizutti Harrison was an American journalist, ex JW, who wrote a book called "Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of Jehovah's Witnesses."
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Are Witnesses guiness book of records most false predictions Armageddon...yes!
by Witness 007 inthere has always been churches that made false predictions for armagedon.
but i challenge you how many times did witnesses say the end was here?
15 or 20 officially in the publications anyone know?
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Mum
I once read a book entitled "The History of the End of the World." Oddly, JW's were not mentioned. The funniest story was about a "cargo cult" on some South Pacific island. They noticed that the English didn't do any work, but sat at desks writing on paper, and, somehow, that made the ships come with supplies. The natives tried everything they could to imitate the English, sitting at desks, sometimes with flower vases (which they believed might have some magical power), writing illiterate scrawl, but to no avail. Finally, they got representatives to go ask the English their "secret" because they had been Christians for many years but had no luck making the ships come.
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How many here turned Athiest or did not and why??
by Witness 007 inme i slowly came to see religion was a crutch we use to dream of a better "afterlife"....i feel half my life was wasted building an organisation that had no criminal mastermind behind it...just alot of mislead people looking for leadership.
if your still religious explain why..
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Mum
I am an agnostic. I have watched many YouTube videos about NDE's and by Raymond Moody, M.D, who is convinced there is an afterlife. Interestingly, atheists have the same after-death experiences as believers. So I have come to believe that religion is not so important as the one lives his/her life. As Benjamin Franklin said, apparently we are not judged on what we thought, but what we did.
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Mum
When I lived out West, I knew lots of Mormons. They were mostly nice people. I also read the book by Sonia Johnson, a former Mormon whose husband left her for a "younger blond-haired woman." She became a feminist. I also read another book by a former Mormon woman named Deborah (something). Their experiences show how much the religion mistreats women. I also knew a former Mormon woman personally, and all of her family had left the church except one of her daughters. This daughter was rearing nine children on her own because her husband (also a Mormon) abandoned the family for another woman. I also used to work with a young man who had been thrown out of the church for being gay.
The weirdest things to me are the "temple recommend" and the "garments" (underwear that must be worn at all times). They also believe something like Elohim had sex with the virgin Mary to conceive Jesus - weird as the "virgin birth" for sure.
All that having been said, most of them are very nice people, mostly prosperous and well educated. Somehow, the education didn't entirely "take." The scary ones are the Fundamentalist LDS led by Warren Jeffs, a child molestor.
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Alan F
by scholar inhave received news of the passing of alan fuerbacher today having just turned 70 years of age.
alan was an earlier and frequent poster on this forum and was a strident critic of wt bible chronology.
i enjoyed the continuous debate on matters relating to 607 bce and will miss his intellectual contributions and his scholarship even though i disagreed with much of his contributions on this subject.
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Mum
He posted a lot on H2O. He was interviewed by Lloyd Evans once. Very sad that he is gone.
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France: Jehovah’s Witnesses take Miviludes to court.
by yalbmert99 inaccording to a european pro-cult website, jehovah’s witnesses take france's anti-cult organisation miviludes to court.
posted : march 16, 2022.. found on the site: foref forum for religious freedom europe.. .
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Mum
For those who can't read French, the protest signs say "MIVILUDES - THOUGHT POLICE"