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  Why Jw's Are so Blind to the REAL TRUTH?

  by disneycuty in

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  now that i am out i have a hard time understanding why people accept these changes from the society as "new light" and than view it as "truth.".

  when i remember reading the scripture that "satan blinds the minds of the unbeliever.

  " i didn't know that scripture applies to jehovah's witness.

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  Mum

  I'm glad to see that Old Hippie has a moderate side. This is great!

  Maybe his future posts won't be so inflammatory and honest disagreement and discussion will be possible. I hope so.

  It is good that he acknowledges that JW's are where they are because they feel unsafe and insecure out on their own. The unknown is very scary, even if it is better than the known, like the saying, "The devil you know is better than the devil you don't know." Personally, it was very hard for me when I left 22+ years ago, particularly financially. But it was worth it all.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  Unplugging Glug Glug The Genius Within

  by Celtic in

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  from the more intelligent of you out there, how did you accomplish hanging onto your genius within?.

  any views?.

  peace.

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  Mum

  I didn't know I had any genius within, so there was nothing to hold onto.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  Just a couple Questions...

  by jolly_green_giant in

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  i was just wondering if anyone knows what year the jw's banned smoking and celebrating christmas.

  plus, anyone here still know active jw's that still smoke secretly?

  i know a couple that do.

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  Mum

  The ban on smoking came about 1973, if memory serves. The Christmas ban is much older.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  21 reasons why the U.S is such a great country

  by nytelecom1 in

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  21. it has the world headquarters of the christian congergation.

  of jehovah's witnesses.. 20. your fellow citizens might not agree that farts are funny, but they will defend to the death a magazine full of jokes about them.. 19. we have the best mexican food...and many of the best mexicans!.

  18. cowboys.. 17. all superheroes, from superman to mighty mouse to the thing, are on our side.. 16. no other chant at the olympics has quite the cachet of u.s.a.!

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  Mum

  Deserts, forests, mountains, ever-changing landscapes and beautiful scenery everywhere.

  And a JW who can suspend his other-directed, dictated "opinions" and speak what is really in his heart thanks to the anonymity afforded by the internet.

  What a refreshing post. Thanks, NYT. I love you for being honest and actually speaking spontaneously (or so it would seem)! WARNING: This could lead to thinking.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  What Can I Learn From You?

  by ItsJustMe in

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  the recent post about what everyone wants to learn about has led me to this post..... we can learn something from everyone we meet.

  what can i learn from you?.

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  Mum

  I could probably teach you a lot about yourself, as I have practically memorized the book "Please Understand Me" by Kiersey and Bates and other materials on the same subject.

  I don't know what your gaps in learning are, but I can also teach English grammar, French, basic Spanish, certain favorite recipes and the sub-culture I spring from - Appalachian/hillbilly/southern highlander-mountaineer (probably about life in the 19th century because the first 6 years of my life were essentially more like 19th than 20th century living).

  I learn a lot from the internet these days as well as from books.

  I am currently learning negotiation, GIS, court reporting and cadastral map reading.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  High Standards in "the world" ??

  by IWish4Truth in

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  yes, im a newbie here, so my idea is to get the different viewpoints of people with different experience, strength, and possibly some hope to offer.

  it's quite obvious to me that my view on certain matters upset some but; oh well.

  i can handle it.

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  Mum

  Welcome to the board. Thank you for asking.

  I was a regular publisher for most of 17 years. In retrospect, the congregation I started out in must have been pretty liberal for JW's. I don't remember any child abuse, and I remember that committee meetings and disciplinary matters were handled in a non-reprehensible way. BUT I was very young, the only JW in my immediate or extended family, and was not privy to what went on amongst the JW elite (elders' meetings and "insider" stuff).

  After I married an elder and moved to another state, I was more in tune with things that were going on. I was criticized harshly for not being able to function at a much higher level than I should have been able to at the time. To be fair, I was not fair to my stepson or my daughter either, having unrealistic expectations of them as well.

  I do not regret living a moral life. I lived a moral life as a teenager before I became a JW, however, and did not change my moral outlook or behavior by adopting a weird belief system. I do regret becoming the petty, judgmental, mean-spirited person I became after I became associated with higher-up JW's. I began to realize that I had been a better person, i.e., a kinder, gentler, more understanding, more thoughtful person before becoming a JW.

  Now it feels good to be free to use the good sense God gave me in deciding what to believe, what to wear, which entertainment is appropriate and a zillion other matters.

  I do not regret leaving the JW's. It is the best thing I ever did for myself and my daughter.

  Regards,
  Mum

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  You guys are too suspicious

  by Mulan in

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  i posted this on the thread from little_red_birdie, but thought perhaps it deserved it's own thread.. to some of the posters on this thread:.

  you guys are just too suspicious.

  some teens are so grown up, and have good vocabularies, because their parents talk to them, and they learn how to speak.

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  Mum

  It is best to give a person the benefit of the doubt until evidence surfaces that he or she is not genuine. Thanks for pointing this out so eloquently, Mulan.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  Life Is Ticklish

  by Celtic in

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  it is.

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  what does the ticklishness of life do for you?

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  Mum

  When it tickles, I laugh.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  verbal V's written . arguments / debates

  by sleepy in

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  i have become quite frustrated recently.. why is it so difficult to prove or reason on a point with someone who holds a opposite viewpoint?.

  you can recite the known facts of a situation over and over but some people will not get it.. being able to articulate a point clearly to another person and for them to understand can seem like a black art.. this is much worse in a verbal debate.it is hard when talking with someone to disscus a subject properly.. you start of on one point and before you know it the conversation has moved off in another tangent.. this is why i feel written aurguments hold more weight.you can not change the subject .also it is more vital that you get your facts right in written articles as people are more likely to check where as in a verbal disscusion it is easy say something you know is not provable or valid in the heat of the moment.. but you've got to get the person then to read , that can often be harder than getting them to converse with you.. so what do you think which is the better method of getting a point accross verbal or written.. (god i'm bad at spelling)

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  Mum

  Not everyone is going to change their point of view regardless of how compelling your argument is. I have learned that not everyone is going to understand my point of view, much less buy into it, regardless of how articulate, well thought out, or convincing I think my argument is. All people have their prejudices, blind spots, and delusions; and some are less willing than others to entertain ideas that interfere with these.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
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  All questions are beautiful

  by ashitaka in

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  (i brought this over from rex's thread).

  does god exist-i always think of khalil gibran's couplet from the prophet; "do not say god is in my heart, but i am in the heart of god.

  " i beleive that people use god to keep themselves in check, and they make the bible their moral register.

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  There are people who believe in God who do not have a concept of God as an "old man in the sky." I heard a Jewish theologian on a radio program who stated that it had long been acceptable in Judaism to think of God as "Being itself" instead of "a being."

  To me, God is necessary, not as a Big Guy watching what we all do in our bedrooms but as a higher authority, the underpinning of all principles. After all, every religion seems to agree on most points of what is right and wrong.

  Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace

  I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix