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  Dinosaurs and the Bible

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://sianrose.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/the-genesis-account-and-dinosaurs/.

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  Mum

  I am glad to know that the Bible is not a science book, nor was it intended to be.
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  Are you thankful to know TTAT or not?

  by laverite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am so thankful that i was able to learn the truth about the truthtm (ttatt).

  i owe everything in my life to having left watchtower corp: my education, my position as a college professor, being able to write and publish, travel, family life, my beautiful children, being able to be openly gay -- and happy.

  unlike those closeted homosexuals in the truthtm, i do not have to be afraid to be who i am.

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  I had a pre-JW life, so it was great just to feel somewhat normal again. I love reading, and can read books I enjoy now. I hate living in fear, and I can live in peace now. I hate not being able to make my own decisions, and I can decide for myself now and accept the consequences, as a mature person, because I have the status of an adult, not a developmentally delayed 7-year-old.
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  Happiness/unhappiness

  by lostinthought in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was told by a family member the other day "if you want to leave jehovah, go ahead.

  but don't think you'll ever be happy.

  all the people i know who have left got burned by the world and they come back to the truth".

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  Mum

  I take responsibility for my own happiness. I know that no one else can "make" me happy. Being able to make my own decisions, look at situations and determine what's wrong, if anything, working toward goals that I set for myself - all of these things make me happy.

  As someone else said, I didn't know how unhappy I was as a dub. I was like the fly that lived in the vinegar jar, thinking it was the sweetest place in the world. Now I've tasted the honey, so to speak, and life is much sweeter.

  Is everything perfect? No. Have I done everything I want to do in life? No. We have to accept the fact that there are some things we have no control over.

  I am lucky that I have a non-JW family, so I actually got my family back instead of losing them!
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  Spiritually divided and the pain of it all...

  by marriedtoajw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you who still have faith in god and feel a need to worship him, i sincerely hope you have more peace than i feel.

  peace with my spiritual division with my wife continues to escape me.

  i really need someone to talk to to help me figure this out but my work schedule allows for so little time so i come here.

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  Mum

  It's sad to see families messed up by this high control cult.

  If you don't have money for counseling, I recommend that you try Al-Anon. Al-Anon is for families and friends of alcoholics, but it can help restore serenity to anyone in a situation which they have little or no control over. Members of Al-Anon follow a 12-step program and learn what they do and do not have the ability to change. I hope you will give it a try.

  One advantage that you have is that you are the man of the house, therefore "the head" of the household. If your wife is neglecting you, complain to the elders of her congregation, and see whose side they take. Make plans for meeting nights, and tell her you'll talk to the elders about "allowing" her to spend some time with you instead of going to a useless meeting.

  I hope things improve for you.
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  WTS in trouble in Denmark

  by zed is dead in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/andre_sprog/english/2013/07/25/132435.htm.

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  They lambast us, but we are "persecuting" them? That argument is so weak it can't stand up. Is that any way to talk about the "mentally diseased" anyway. Don't the mentally ill have some protection under the law?
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  In 12 Lines or Less: GIVE US YOUR AUTOBIOGRAPHY POETICALLY

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  autobiography.

  forever began at the day of my birth, but, it turns out that it was a lie,.

  i am who i am when nobody's watching, then nothing is there to deny.. .

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  Mom was 16, Dad was narcissistic

  Grandma and grandpa took me in,

  I was handicapped, they altruistic,

  Went to Holiness church to fight sin.

  Was withdrawn, had a charming sister,

  Who was lively, and baby brother so cute,

  But I was the lucky one, I'm tellin' ya, mister,

  "Cause I did'nt live with a brute.

  Dad's boss was a dub and persuaded me,

  Kept at it for 17 years, 'til I was 32,

  Got mentally ill, knew I must be free,

  Left my elder husband, got a degree! Wouldn't you?
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  WT destroying old literature

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was approached by an elder about a year ago asking what i am going to do with my large collection of wt literature.

  he told me the society had put word out that they were collecting old literature.

  i asked him why but he couldn't give me a definite answer.

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  In the '80's I saw Joan Cetnar on The John Ankerberg Show. She and her late husband, Bill, were apostates before it was cool. She stated that she and Bill kinew of old literature being burned. As someone else pointed out, they can burn all they want, but somebody somewhere has every piece of it.
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  JWs Just Don't Want To Think....

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they don't want to think about their past, present or future.. they ignore any obvious weakness in "the truth".. they won't question their leader's viewpoints.. they will follow what the governing body (the faithful & discreet slave) says even if they flipflop a hundred times.. it's embarrassing to see millions of people refuse to think.. the only silver lining is that many of us were just like the witnesses of today.

  there is hope!.

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  What is saddest of all is that they have a false consciousness (a term I borrowed from Karl Marx ) about life and everything in it. Their whole life is a lie, and they are afraid to consider the reality of that fact.

  I think of them every day and feel sad that people who could be free choose to live in slavery and poverty.
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  How About Some Old Time aRockan' Roll

  by slipnslidemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i admit it.

  usually when i'm drunk and/or bored.. but.... this one thread just caught my eye and i would love for all of you jw wonks/historians to post more information regarding it.. it's called "everything you always wanted to know about shunning, excommunication and disfellowship practice".

  surely a wonderful thread all on it's own but there is a gem inside of the thread that got me to a'wondering:.

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  Mum

  slipnslidemaster, were you one of the posters on H2O? I think I remember you from that old forum. Glad to see you here.
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  First post

  by EastCoastMindFree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on this site lurking for over 2 years and this is my first post, i feel so bottled with emotion that i have to let it out somehow so i do not have an emotional breakdown!

  i was raised in the organization and am married with 2 children ages 4 and 2. my wife and i have been inactive for about 2 years and i have always had hard questions that were never answered growing up, such as blood policy and how david and his men were allowed to eat from the bread reserved for the high priests without death penalty since it was life or death.

  carbon dating on human remains/tools that date back 30-40k years, far surpassing the 6k year man creation date, the double standards and very real "human" aspect on the organization and its decisions and history.

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  Mum

  Welcome! You're fading successfully, or so it seems. You need to let go of those negative emotions. Many will recommend that you read Steve Hassan's book Combatting Cult Mind Control, and I endorse this book also, although I have never read it.

  A book that helped me wake up and deal with my emotions was Dr. Wayne Dyer's first book, Your Erroneous Zones. His strategies for dealing with anger, stress, manipulation, etc. are simple and effective. Your thought patterns will change, and you will be a much healthier person.

  Can you move to another state or another town? This strategy helped me make my exit much more easily as well.

  If you need someone to talk to, call a priest, rabbi or minister. These individuals have the ability to answer questions about Biblical subjects, as they have studied at a high level.

  If you just need to vent, we're here for you.

  I have spoken with a young man in my area who has recently quit. He is registered on this forum but rarely posts. PM me, and I will tell you how to contact him.