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  JW GB MEMBER CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!!

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

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  gb member and so called "annointed" person geoffry jackson is caught red handed on video doing some worldly dancing and sexual gyrating (they have spoken against such manner of dancing on several occasions) with a woman who is not his wife!!!

  i can only imagine what they do off camera now!!!.

  i would not have even considerd doing such a thing on the dance floor with a woman, especially if it was not my wife, and i'm not even one of the so called "annointed" smh!!!

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  What would he/they say if the Pope of Rome did this?
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  Do you like the people in the Bible?

  by Dis-Member in

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  2. beliefs

  the society always speaks about all the wonderful people and characters in the bible.. they always too speak of many of them as being so humble, faithful, loyal, diligent, loving, kind, wise, merciful etc, and worthy of imitation.

  also of how god blessed them followed by endless examples and reasons why we today should imitate them.. .

  they also speak of how wonderful it would be to meet some of these people in the future 'new system' and have often depicted scenes where the the survivors of armageddon would be gathered around some ancient resurrected faithful asking them questions and listening to their stories of times past.

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  I think I would like Amos if he's the guy who wrote the book of Amos. He had his priorities straight and cared about the poor and needy.
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  The Illusion of Superiority

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after reading dozens and dozens of posts and hundreds of comments, it seems to me that a great many people on this forum think that since they figured out ttatt, they must therefore be a highly intelligent and incredibly rational individual.

  let me take a moment to congratulate everyone.

  its a big step to figure this out - i know.. that said, it doesn't make you a genius!

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  Mum

  It's basic tenets of logic.

  Category is the correct spelling of "catagory."

  We are all people here with gifts and with flaws. I don't perceive the feeling of "superiority" you accuse us of having. Most of us have learned many things besides TTATT. Just sayin'.

  I did take a course in logic in college, and I am familiar with the fallacies and dilemmas we all face from time to time.
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  Is new light coming again?

  by justme67 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just turned in my resignation letter to my congregation a few weeks ago.

  last week, 2 elders called me to say they received my letter and would like to meet with me to discuss my concerns.

  in my letter, i said i had found out about all the child abuse cases that were going on and that i didnt agree with their policy of disfellowshipping.

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  Mum

  Hi, justme. Interesting that you bring up the mob. In fact, I have seen many parallels between mob behavior and JW behavior:

  1. They all go on "vacation" together, i.e., assemblies, and the controls keep tightening about where to sit, etc.

  2. If you get on the wrong side of them, they "whack" (disfellowship) you - not literally, of course, but probably only because that would be illegal.

  3. Image is everything. I saw a TV documentary in which a mobster's daughter was not allowed to get a tattoo, but her mobster dad committed atrocities every day.

  4. Everybody spies on everybody else. If you step out of line, you will be reported.

  5. There is a criminal protection network; e.g., child molestors are protected, but their victims are re-victimized.

  I'm sure there's a lot more, but I have time limits.
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  Governing Body Teaching Islamic Hatred of Women

  by TOTH in

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  2. friends

  i am thinking there is a strange tie between wt and islam.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlafa5lbopw.

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  Mum

  I am a woman, and I can tell you from experience that women are in no way inferior to men, except that we have less upper body strength. Men have women at desks in their front offices to protect them (the men) from whomever and whatever the men don't want to deal with. Women can deal with it all because we have no other choice. Women have to have skills, knowledge, ability, and determination to do their jobs of protecting men from having to be competent as typists, composers, telephone answerers, child caregivers, and a host of other duties that take more strength and brainpower than that of the person (usually a man or men) who boss(es) them around.

  My daughter once told me that I should be earning at least $80,000 a year (in the '90's) when I was working as a doctors' office manager. If I had been a man, I'm sure I would have demanded at least that amount.

  I'm not saying women are all good and all brilliant, or that men are all bad or all stupid. But I have observed that, generally speaking, much more is expected of women, while she is paid less.

  I am grateful for the women in my life who have been there for me - and some men, too.
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  Would you go to church?

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. beliefs

  i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.

  even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.

  just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.

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  Both of my grandfathers were country preachers of the Holiness/Pentecostal faith. I lived with my maternal grandparents until I was in 6th grade, and my parents lived in another state, so I went to church regularly. I was terrified in church because it seemed to me that my quiet, gentle grandparents, who rarely spoke, went crazy! The people "shouted," which meant they got up and jumped around in a kind of trance while shouting things like "Praise the Lord" and Hallelujah!" These were simple folk, poor Appalachian ("hillbilly") farmers who lived on the edge of ruin, plowed with mules, and had great skill with tools.

  My parents, both offspring of preachers, were party animals, and not religious at all. My dad's boss was a JW and started a "study" with my parents when I was 9 years old. When I was 15, I started "publishing." I was the only JW in the entire family, extended family included. I loved being "different," and felt self-righteous and superior. Yes, I was SO stupid! I left the JW's at age 32, young enough to start over.

  My second husband and I joined the Episcopal Church. He had graduated from a prestigious Episcopal college. One of his colleagues at work invited us to the church.

  Personally, I've had enough of religion. Nevertheless, I admit that I feel better after attending church, on the rare occasions I choose to go.

  I have taken my granddaughter to church, and will take my great granddaughter as well. As far as I'm concerned, exposure to religious people and religious beliefs constitute part of one's education in Western culture. It also gives the child some background to choose whether or not they want to be church-affiliated.

  Although I am no longer religious, I value my church experiences, all of them. They fill certain gaps in understanding and knowledge.
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  Sing, sing a song....

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i learnt this game on another site, and its great fun.

  you name a song title and the next person names another title that has one of the words from the first one, making a chain of associations.. so far instance,.

  our house...csny.....house of the rising sun.....bob dylan.... your turn... .

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  Baby Love - the Supremes
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  Is it a right or is it right?

  by likeabird in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in light of the recent posts about the little boy taken out of hospital in southampton by his parents and is now somewhere between france and spain, i started reading up some of the newspaper article links posted.

  i was especially interested by the comments posted.. note my surprise, and yes horror, to see a large number of people supporting the parents decision.

  how the parents are fully in their rights to do such a thing, going as far as to imply they 'own' their child, so they can do what they want.. i know this is a very sensitive subject and i'm probably opening a can of worms, but i think it needs saying.

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  Generally speaking, it's fine to believe anything, however bizarre. However, certain actions, even if based on strong belief, are wrong and need to be curbed and/or outlawed.
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  What is the best advise you have ever been given?

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  awhile a go i was uptight about a matter i can't remember now and my friend said to me " give the other side the victory".

  a while ago my little boy was getting uptight and argumentative with his mum i asked him " to let it go" in effect i suppose " giving the other side the victory".

  anyway i am sure our life exsperiences have allowed us both receive and give good advice.

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  Mum

  When I was still a JW, I was whining to a JW friend of mine about things I wanted to do, but my elder husband wouldn't "let" me. She said, "Sometimes you have to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps."

  So I started pulling. I'm no longer married to the elder. I'm no longer associated with JW's. I have had a better life ever since.
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  Contemplating a Major Life Change.

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  never was a jw, but been here long enough to have made some friends and respect opinions.. retired in 2004, lived in cyprus 2005-2010. back here in wales since then.. just back from a holiday in france (most recent of many).

  love the country, the lifestyle, can get by in the language.. just seen an advert for a country estate (british-owned) they want someone to live on site, do a bit of handyman stuff, etc., look after (mainly brit) holiday visitors in return for zero rent (only utitlties).

  family would be abe to come and stay for free.

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  I would just do it!