cofty: Why would somebody confess to god? Wouldn't he know already?
That's right, but for some reason God likes to hear you humiliate yourself. It does something for him ...
durex's global sex survey has found that 44% of adults worldwide have had one-night extramarital sex and 22% have had an affair.according to a 2004 united states survey, 16% of married partners have had extramarital sex, nearly twice as many men as women, while an additional 30% have fantasized about extramarital sex.
there were also studies that have shown rates of extramarital sex as low as 2.5%.as many authors conclude, these kinds of estimates are probably understated because extramarital sex is commonly disapproved.. .
what do you think is it ethical to confess an extramarital affair?.
cofty: Why would somebody confess to god? Wouldn't he know already?
That's right, but for some reason God likes to hear you humiliate yourself. It does something for him ...
i'm not talking about any gb members, either!.
Define "famous."
i obviously don't agree with everything that's said (especially when gervais talks about agnostics!
), but it's an intriguing discussion between two clever people, and some mostly good reasoning on display.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd92qy2zmv0.
cedars.
Some interesting points. Curious they chose a church for this discussion. Dawkins was pretty much a prop as Gervais did most of the talking.
I didn't sense it from Dawkins in this piece, but Garvais generally demonstrated an underlying lack of respect for those that differ from his point of view. Although he did make an important distinction between spirituality and religion.
Certainly, it goes without saying that many--maybe even the majority--of theists are disrespectful of atheists.
I'm wondering why there is so much animosity between these two philosophical belief systems. The answer to that question probably reveals some fundamental truths about human nature.
Perhaps it's more of a reflection of where I am on my personal journey of discovery concerning this issue, but I'm done with people that are dismissive and intolerant of others that are trying to figure it out. That being said, I certainly make the important distinction between those that are trying to come to some understanding and those that think they got it all down.
I do enjoy discussing things with people that are seeking. It's those that are sure they've found it that are usually intolerable. Oddly, it doesn't seem to matter WHAT it is that they think they've found, it's more the arrogant attitude that seems to come with that particular type of territory no matter in what area of belief-land it happens to be located.
00DAD
rhetorical question, i guess.. this is making the rounds:.
when you carry a bible, the devil gets a headache.
when you open it, he collapses.
It makes people feel important I guess, special.
I think he'd be very cross!
so the fds does not include the apostles.
what part of the gospels aren't food at the proper time?
or am i just mixed up on who the fds are..
njy: I thought there was some wiggle room there a bit, like they mentioned annointed ones working at world headquarters or something similar. I thought the annual meeting talk did not say GB members, did it?
Here is that they actually said, reposted from page 2 of this thread:
“Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?” The evidence points to the following conclusion: “The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” - Emphasis added
<http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/annual-meeting-report-2012/> accessed December 5, 2012
Keep in mind that these guys do not need "wiggle room." They can always make up something new at any time.
Little things like facts, logic, consistency and truth are apparently irrelevant in WT/JW "theology."
I throw it out and drink a tea I like: Earl Grey hot!
But generally I prefer Coffee Black, dark beer cold, scotch neat, red wine at room temperature.
so the fds does not include the apostles.
what part of the gospels aren't food at the proper time?
or am i just mixed up on who the fds are..
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so the fds does not include the apostles.
what part of the gospels aren't food at the proper time?
or am i just mixed up on who the fds are..
Yes AnnOMaly, terrific find. So now we actually have a "first and foremost reason" for NOT trusting anything these guys teach!
What do you expect from a bunch of guys with nothing more than a high school education between the lot of them.
While one or two might actually have some intelligence (defined as native ability, albeit underutilized even deliberately so), none are educated to think logically and critically. Also, all of them have been completely indoctrinated to ONLY see things from a JW perspective: "We are right, we are always right; even when we were wrong we were still 'more right' than any other religion because we're God's Organization."
As a result, none of them are bright enough, educated enough and/or unbiased enough to honestly proclaim, "Look guys, we clearly are completely wrong about just about everything. We need to shit-can our entire belief system and start over from scratch."
00DAD
besse cooper, the oldest verified living person, died yesterday at 116 years old.
you can read the yahoo news story.
as a problem for wt "theology", there are currently only about 70 supercentenarians, that is people still alive over the age of 110.. there are now only six people still alive that are 113 years old or older.
Balaamsass: brings new meaning to middle aged.......
Yeah, ya' gotta' love her for that!