Count your blessings! You are one of the lucky ones. Maybe your parents are planning an exit themselves. It's happened before that the children leave first.
Posts by 00DAD
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27Why does my family still interact with me?
by stillstuckcruz inhere was my story posted originally about 2 years ago.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/205854/1/as-a-witness-what-view-of-the-world-did-you-have-heres-my-story.
and my extended story on jwrecovery:.
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Shunning is good for you!
by 00DAD inyes shunning is good for you!
i did not understand this before, but i know it now.
sometimes when i'm feeling a little down-in-the-dumps, a little depressed, i go outside for a little fresh air and some shun-shine.
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Yes shunning is good for you!
I did not understand this before, but I know it now.
Sometimes when I'm feeling a little down-in-the-dumps, a little depressed, I go outside for a little fresh air and some shun-shine. I find it's really quite refreshing.
If I really need a jolt, I'll go to a place where I know the local JWs like to hang out and take a quick shun-bath.
There's nothing quite like being completely ignored by family members and/or former friends to let you know how special you are. When their beaming rays of shun-light shine on me I really how truly wonderful and worthy of love I am. Oh, what a feeling!
The other day I was feeling really down. I was depressed that I haven't talked to my kids in ..., well it seems like forever.
I was wallowing in a pool of self-pity, drowning in a sea of sadness with nothing but ominous, dark clouds raining down misery and despair. I guess I was feeling sorry for myself, I admit it.
I was going crazy! I had to do something, anything. So I decided to take a walk.
Lost in thought I wandered aimlessly, completely unaware of the passsage of time, self-indulgently feeling sorry for myself. Pretty pathetic, huh?
But then I suddenly began to feel better. I was confused! What happened? Why did I feel better? At first I had no clue, but I could feel the dark clouds parting and feel a warmth coming over me. I looked around trying to determine the source of this drastic change in my emotions and there it was: across the street were two of my former, closest friends! Oh how I loved them, and oh how they (used to) love me!
As I saw them my heart quickened. When they saw me they immediately turned away and that's when it happened: I was overcome with joy as I felt their shun warming me with their genuine Christian love. - John 13:34-35
I walked, no I fairly skipped, back home knowing that I was loved. Yes, it was a shunny-day!
And now I'm shinging ....
00GLAD to be SHUNNED
BTW, I only shlur my shpeech when I've been drinking!
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Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower
by cedars inhi folks.
that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.
the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .
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Yesh it ish ... shaken, not shtirred!
I shee you know my, hic!, father, Sean, aka 00GRANDAD!!!
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Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower
by cedars inhi folks.
that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.
the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .
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Yes shunning is good for you!
I did not understand this before, but I know it now.
Sometimes when I'm feeling a little down-in-the-dumps, a little depressed, I go outside for a little fresh air and some shun-shine. I find it's really quite refreshing.
If I really need a jolt, I'll go to a place where I know the local JWs like to hang out and take a quick shun-bath.
There's nothing quite like being completely ignored by family members and/or former friends to let you know how special you are. When their beaming rays of shun-light shine on me I really how truly wonderful and worthy of love I am. Oh, what a feeling!
The other day I was feeling really down. I was depressed that I haven't talked to my kids in ..., well it seems like forever.
I was wallowing in a pool of self-pity, drowning in a sea of sadness with nothing but ominous, dark clouds raining down misery and despair. I guess I was feeling sorry for myself, I admit it.
I was going crazy! I had to do something, anything. So I decided to take a walk.
Lost in thought I wandered aimlessly, completely unaware of the passsage of time, self-indulgently feeling sorry for myself. Pretty pathetic, huh?
But then suddenly I began to feel better. I was confused! What happened? Why did I feel better? At first I had no clue, but I could feel the dark clouds parting and feel a warmth coming over me. I looked around trying to determine the source of this drastic change in my emotions and there it was: across the street were two of my former, closest friends! Oh how I loved them, and oh how they (used to) love me!
As I saw them my heart quickened. When they saw me they immediately turned away and that's when it happened: I was overcome with joy as I felt their shun warming me with their genuine Christian love. - John 13:34-35
I walked, no I fairly skipped, back home knowing that I was loved. Yes, it was a shunny-day!
And now I'm shingin' ....
00GLAD to be SHUNNED
BTW, I only shlur my shpeech when I've been drinking!
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Raphael Aron in The Age newspaper: Jehovah's Witnesses 'a cruel cult'
by WinstonSmith inthis popped up on the age website today, might have to buy the paper tomorrow..... http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
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WinstonSmith: As 00DAD would say, "Let's review - it's a cult!"
Ok, if you're gonna' quote me, please get it right!
Let's review: It's a cult!
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2 things I don't understand about watchtower leadership
by Gorbatchov inwith the new pope franciscus in mind, i was thinking about our new gb member mark sanderson.. how is our mark chosen to be one of the 8 members of the gb / fds?
are there internal headhunters at the watchtower hq?.
what is his cv?
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Dude, you're trying to make sense outta' nonsense. Stop it!
Let's review: It's a cult!
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Question about talking to JW
by darklight ini was raised atheist and never believed in any religion.
i've been studying the watchtower religion with a younger jw couple for some months now.. my main motivation was the fact i knew nothing about christianity, they knocked on my door and offered their "bible" study... so why not learn something, i thought.. .
and yeah, this is one crazy cult.... .
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Ask them if there is ever a legitimate reason to leave the organization?
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Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower
by cedars inhi folks.
that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.
the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .
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Quendi: This has the subtle effect of dehumanizing everyone involved because we are not talking about living, breathing disfellowshipped people.
This is an important point and just one more example of how the WT writers manipulate the emotions of the R&F.
As Quendi pointed out, they depersonalize and dehumanize the people that either leave the organization or are kicked out. The WT almost never talks about how those that are DF's and shunned are affected personally and emotionally. If they do, it is only in the context of how it "moved them to repentance" or some such nonsense.
WT publications studiously avoid even alluding to how shunning affects the one shunned.
Conversely, there is a a strange and disproportionate amount of indulging the flock in reference to how shunning others affects the ones doing the shunning. They turn it around and make out as if the WT/JWs are the victims, they are the ones injured, they are the ones in so much pain.
Don't get me wrong. I'm sure it is painful for many family members to shun their loved ones. And I'm also sure that in many cases the circumstances or actions that led to the person getting DF'd or DA'd affect them personally, perhaps even deeply. But the way the WT handles the subject is one in which those that remain in the organization are encouraged to view themselves as the victim. There is a deliberate cultivating of a victim mentality among the flock by the GB. There is constant reinforcement of learned helplessness among the sheep.
The writers of WT literature have demonstrated a clear pattern of deliberately playing with the emotions of R&F JWs in order to manipulate and control. They are not interested in helping their people become healthier, stronger individuals. On the contrary, they want them weak, afraid and docile.
They deliberately take advantage of human frailties to divide families, to separate loved ones from one another simply to maintain control.
When I became a JW four decades ago I was attracted to the ideals of a worldwide brotherhood of people united by the teachings of Christ and principles of unselfish love; a brotherhood where none are above another, but all are equal.
I still cherish those ideals. They are beautiful.
The ugliness is the way that this organization has misled so many by holding out these ideals to intice us to join. Once we're in, they change the rules. Those in power are in control. Everyone else is to be controlled at all costs, even that of ruining families with total disregard.
I used to sometimes feel ashamed that I had once been fooled by the lies of this religion. But then I realized that there was no way I could have know. They lied to me, I believed them. I trusted them even.
They are the ones that should be ashamed, but they are not. Even still, I am ashamed of them.
00DAD
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The New Diary of Winston Smith
by WinstonSmith inwe had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.
fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.
i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.
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"I'm not going to look at that article, it sounds apostate."
Oh yeah, now the newspapers are even apostate!
What a maroon.
Just paranoia and fear.
Seriously, no critical thinking going on in that little noggin', absolutely none. Typical JW, probably an elder.
Thanks for sharing Winston.
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My decision about "family shunning"
by Gojira_101 insince i've been off work this week because of spring break, i've really been missing my grandma.
when i have left wt (i'm fading and april will be 6 months) and i told her about january, she has been shunning me.
i told myself "i will respect her wishes/decision..etc" this morning i woke up and said "to hell with shunning!
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Gojira_101: I have decided every month I will send her a nice thinking of you card, and just say how much I love her, and miss her
Beautiful plan! Do it. You're being real, you're showing what unconditional love is all about.
I wouldn't worry about a Restraining Order. Seriously. Think it through. What's your aunt going to say, "My niece keeps sending her grandmother cards and letters saying, 'I love you and miss you!' please, your Honor, make her stop!"
After the judge gets done laughing his/her ass off it'll be, "Bailiff, please escort this looney-tune out of my courtroom!"
Have you read Steven Hassan's book, Releasing the Bonds? I'd highly recommend it. It'll help you come to terms with and recover from your cult indoctrination.
Gojira_101: This morning I woke up and said "to hell with shunning!"
Good for you! It's empowering to have such thoughts, isn't it!
00DAD