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What do you think of this-obese win right to 2 airline seats for price of 1

by sir82 in

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friends

see this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27827328/.

obese have right to two airline seats, one faresupreme court of canada rules for those functionally disabled by obesitywhat do you think?

just from a purely selfish standpoint, i would be grateful if the 500 pound passenger next to me were able to occupy 2 seats, rather than being wedged into 1 (and spilling over the sides)..

mustang

Airliners and Transports ("heavies)) usually have generous margins. They can readily make concessions within their larger "envelopes of flight parameters". Smaller planes probably don't.

All pilots are taught to do preflight planning. This is required by law.

All planes are designed to strict specifications. These specs are published, in Flight Manuals. This is required by law.

Preflight planning requires use of those Flight Manuals, which include applicable tables, worksheets for calculations and may specify use of the E6-B or other flight computing accessory.

As a PIC (Pilot In Command), I would be the "lawful master of such a vessel". Flight safety is a primary responsibility. On such a smaller craft, I would consider safety, physics (including theory of flight) and applicable regulations. I would have no compunction in grounding a 400 pound passenger, his 400 pound luggage or both.

If I were to accept a 300 pound passenger, I would retire to the pilots briefing room and replot my course and CG calculations; I would punch in new numbers for the takeoff roll and check those charts. If I had done all these the night before, I would do them again, upon seeing the passenger. I would not take on full fuel and would plan in shorter legs with more frequent fuel stops.

Nor would I apologize, for doing my clear and lawful duty.

Mustang

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What do you think of this-obese win right to 2 airline seats for price of 1

by sir82 in

jw
friends

see this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27827328/.

obese have right to two airline seats, one faresupreme court of canada rules for those functionally disabled by obesitywhat do you think?

just from a purely selfish standpoint, i would be grateful if the 500 pound passenger next to me were able to occupy 2 seats, rather than being wedged into 1 (and spilling over the sides)..

mustang

Actually John... for some classes of air travel the FAA assumes that the standard passenger weighs 170 pounds.. the ramp agent does a weight and balance calculation for the aircraft and the pilot is responible for checking it.

Some of the smaller aircraft in regional service are very sensitive to weight and balance issues... and I have seen seating on those flights rearranged to get the big folks in the right spots in the cabin.... all so the plane wont crash. It's some silly nonsense about weight, moment and leverage and having enough elevator authority to pick the nose up.

Weight and balance is necessary for all planes. It is a matter of multiple "lever arm" equations. This includes "consumables", i.e. fuel and oil. Fuel burn during flight may have require compensation.

The C.G. (Center of Gravity) will move fore and aft of the "Datum" or reference mark. The actual C.G. and the Datum do not necessarily coincide; for convenience, the Datum can located in the cockpit. But adjustment is done against the Datum, regardless. Original Design criteria generally place the C.G. along the centerline of the wings, from one wingtip to the other. There is an "envelope" in which it is safe to fly: if it goes outside the limits, YOU DO SOMETHING. Same thing for a simple "over Gross" weight. A slight "aft CG" can result in a noticeable fuel savings.

Transport planes have a "loadmaster" who does nothing but this. From the earliest days, there were calculators for this, i.e. the Singer LibraScope; now they all use laptops. Passenger liners use similar techniques.

As a pilot, I was taught to use 180 pounds for a "standard passenger"; I've handled the FAA "standard gun" and the FAA "standard bomb". The FAA likes to have everything classified. If things look too far off "standard", pilots discretion will have to adjust the nominal weight & balance assumptions.

You don't always catch everything: a friend of mine flew a Lockheed Constellation charter once. They nearly kissed the fence on takeoff roll and burned fuel like nobody's business. Nobody tumbled to the fact that it was a BOWLER'S CONVENTION until they landed. Then a passenger dropped a bowling ball almost on my friends toe: 70 guys w/ 2 or 3 16 pounders each!!!

So ... would I be a bastard if I offered this person a draft cross horse to ride? After all that Belgian cross I have to offer 'screams' fat guy please.. or whould it be inhumane on my part to let the fellow tag along in a horse drawn wagon? There are limits. Big folks dont ask to be big... but not all accommodations can deal with the stress.

Sorry, but safety and physics preclude being sensitive or "politically correct" at times. I'm watching my weight so I can take helicopter lessons: 220 pounds weight limit. Screw up in one of those and you're a smokin' hole in the ground.

Mustang

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What do you think of this-obese win right to 2 airline seats for price of 1

by sir82 in

jw
friends

see this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27827328/.

obese have right to two airline seats, one faresupreme court of canada rules for those functionally disabled by obesitywhat do you think?

just from a purely selfish standpoint, i would be grateful if the 500 pound passenger next to me were able to occupy 2 seats, rather than being wedged into 1 (and spilling over the sides)..

mustang

Are people in wheelchairs allowed on planes?

Special handling and almost universally boarded first.

Mustang

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Mayo verse Miricle whip

by LouBelle in

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friends

i don't mind either - both are fattening to the nth degree but some things just need a dollop.

mayo revolutionised the chicken / tuna sandwhich.

potatoe salad!

mustang

Definitely prefer MW: you guys made me hungry and Hellman's appeared yesterday and tomatoes this morning. So, I'm munching a tomato sandwich to test drive my bottle of Hellman's. I love the tomato juice mingling with the mayo

Sometimes a mayo is a bit salty: I like those. But I was just thinking of switching back to MW; I tried some of the low-fat mayo's and didn't get a good reading there. With the info about MW being lower in the negative spec's, that made my mind up for MW.

I'll still get Hellman's once in a while: I like the relish they add in.

And I don't mind them calling it sandwich spread, since they have "adulterated" it

But I can't go along with those who call this whole group of products "salad dressings": I pour salad dressing out of a bottle.

Mustang

PS: Tnx 4 the 'tater sald recipe; I'll try it.

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WT: Dumbing down the message; no intellectuals allowed

by Hiddenwindow in

have you noticed that the most recent publications by the watch tower, and particularly the study articles of the watchtower magazine, contain less and less references to secular sources?

there is not doubt that the society was always making efforts to provide us with a historical and quasi-intellectual perspective of the world.

i am sure all of you can think of books by the watch tower that contained extensive information on history, biology, and even philosophy (insight, creation book, the bible -god's word or man's?

mustang

Dr. Scott collected MSS and amassed the largest private collection of Bibles and original MSS and anything related. He even was in competition (and collaboration) with the British Museum for such. He stated that similar large trove of MSS had appeared in the last few decades.

This means that a review of the whole situation would be in order. Scott was at that task before his death.

I think the Watchtower finds itself in a dilemma. They must publish sophomoric and simpletonian material to reach many of their new converts. But with this new trend, they will continually bore those in more educated countries who hunger for something a little more esoteric. Many of the more intellectually curious minded friend will begin to explore outside sources more and more; and discover facts that are quite different from what is in their Reasoning From the Scriptures books.

Tie these two together and you get that WTS is out of the consideration in holding the attention of the educated audience. And guess who is more "well heeled"?

Mustang

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Scripture quotes on items not made by JW's is considered bad

by kitten whiskers in

have you ever noticed, or noticed it in yourself, that when you see a product with a scriptural quote, it was avoided, unless it was made by a jw company?

i remember my mom coming over and on a bag of potato chips, they quoted a scripture on the back of a bag.

she picked it up and said something to the effects of it being terrible.

mustang

I looked out the window and saw some people walking with placards with the scripture, "Jesus is the way and the truth and the life."

Hmmm... scripture on an apostate; gotta be sacrilege

I remember when I had a discussion with my big brother about the YMCA. I asked why it was bad, and he simply replied, "It's the Young Men's CHRISTIAN Association ... ?" with raised eyebrows.

And while I "got" what he meant, it always struck me as strange that he would say the word "Christian" as if it were a swear word, when isn't that exactly what we were supposed to be? And I turned that over and over in my head ever since.

It's the "No Interfaith doctrine": can't mix it up with them.

Yet "God makes it to rain on the good and the evil alike"; I believe that paraphrases one of the Proverbs. I guess Brooklyn uses the rain scripture when they need something and go to the UN or a religious conference, but the R&F are stuck with the "No Interfaith doctrine" and can't paint a church to make a living.

Mustang

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Scripture quotes on items not made by JW's is considered bad

by kitten whiskers in

have you ever noticed, or noticed it in yourself, that when you see a product with a scriptural quote, it was avoided, unless it was made by a jw company?

i remember my mom coming over and on a bag of potato chips, they quoted a scripture on the back of a bag.

she picked it up and said something to the effects of it being terrible.

mustang

Try Ezekiel Bread

Mustang

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WT: Dumbing down the message; no intellectuals allowed

by Hiddenwindow in

have you noticed that the most recent publications by the watch tower, and particularly the study articles of the watchtower magazine, contain less and less references to secular sources?

there is not doubt that the society was always making efforts to provide us with a historical and quasi-intellectual perspective of the world.

i am sure all of you can think of books by the watch tower that contained extensive information on history, biology, and even philosophy (insight, creation book, the bible -god's word or man's?

mustang

The sad note:

As a "50's JW", I was told that between the 50's release of the NWT and the ~1610/1611 releases of the KJV and the Douay, 1000's of manuscripts were added to the knowledge base needed for a translation. This was why the WTS came up w/ the NWT.

So fast forward to 2003, before the death of Dr. Gene Scott (2004, I think).

Dr. Scott collected MSS and amassed the largest private collection of Bibles and original MSS and anything related. He even was in competition (and collaboration) with the British Museum for such. He stated that similar large trove of MSS had appeared in the last few decades.

This means that a review of the whole situation would be in order. Scott was at that task before his death.

Where was the WTS? Our thread here shows that they were sticking their heads in the sand and developing the dodo mode of operation.

But what can you expect? The CELEBRATED WATCHTOWER SCHOLARS have left the building, left the field, and probably have left the planet.

Mustang

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WT: Dumbing down the message; no intellectuals allowed

by Hiddenwindow in

have you noticed that the most recent publications by the watch tower, and particularly the study articles of the watchtower magazine, contain less and less references to secular sources?

there is not doubt that the society was always making efforts to provide us with a historical and quasi-intellectual perspective of the world.

i am sure all of you can think of books by the watch tower that contained extensive information on history, biology, and even philosophy (insight, creation book, the bible -god's word or man's?

mustang

Tomb Of The Unknown [BUT CELEBRATED] Watchtower Scholar

RIP

"Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy;"

Mustang

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WT: Dumbing down the message; no intellectuals allowed

by Hiddenwindow in

have you noticed that the most recent publications by the watch tower, and particularly the study articles of the watchtower magazine, contain less and less references to secular sources?

there is not doubt that the society was always making efforts to provide us with a historical and quasi-intellectual perspective of the world.

i am sure all of you can think of books by the watch tower that contained extensive information on history, biology, and even philosophy (insight, creation book, the bible -god's word or man's?

mustang

Somehow, Brooklyn may have gotten the idea that if you keep saying things, but say them S-L-O-W & S-I-M-P-LE people will just magically 'click' into an "understanding".

It doesn't work, except perhaps to catch some S-L-O-W & S-I-M-P-LE people. But look at your audience: they don't bring in any $$. So, this is not a good long term strategy.

It might work for the kids of present JW's to some extent. But again, look at the audience: make 'em dumb, keep 'em dumb. No real $$'s in this either.

Besides, they've ran out of "celebrated Watchtower scholars". Better toss in some "freeze dried bat's nutz".

Mustang