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  referring to Eman's post

  by rekless in

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  how long did it take adam to name all the species of animals,mammals, insects, amebas, plants?.

  would not this add time from the creation of adam to the creation of eve?.

  just think of how long it would take a parade all the creatures pass adam, what can i call that slimmy thing...it looks like a whale but it is so small and it crawls and leaves a slick trail...it is lazy moves slow...moves slow, yes,!

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  mustang

  Hmmm...

  That's just the COMMON NAME. You forgot the SCIENTIFIC NAME!!!
  What no Latin??? Well, you'll just have to wait 3 or 4 millennia
  for that.

  Mustang
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  Thank You All!!

  by teenyuck in

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  billygoat.

  jt.

  puzzled.

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  mustang

  Hi Puff,

  My condolences and I wish you well in dealing with your grief.

  I read your detailed experience; it was trying, but at least the JW side of things was relatively uneventful.

  Mustang
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  need questions for FAQ on United Nations

  by Dogpatch in

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  hi folks,.

  i am setting up a faq (frequently asked questions) about the united nations scandal with the watchtower.

  it will be posted at:.

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  mustang

  Randy,

  Some question has to counter the 'Library Card' Defense. Also, you might want to point to some link w/ a 'bio' of Lloyd Barry & Ciro
  Ouchcino.

  Mustang
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  I'm looking for a letter to the Judicial Committee

  by tyydyy in

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  my sister is having to deal with a jc and i saw a letter some time back threatening legal action and thought it might come in handy.

  does anyone know where i can find a copy of that letter.

  my sister got a letter today from the local elders today.

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  mustang

  Another variation on the theme & some comments may be found in this
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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18983&site=3

  Mustang
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  These last few weeks.

  by Princess in

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  i haven't posted more than a reply or two to various topics these last few weeks.

  i haven't seen any evidence of my mom (mulan) in as long.. i have started to post the whole story but it is too long and probably unbelievable.

  anyway, here is the short version.. 89 year old grandma fell and broke a vertabrae.

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  mustang

  Sigh!!! It just never ceases, does it?

  Only last night I got a call from a total stranger that a manipulative relative told a pack of lies to in order to get
  them to contact me after that stranger moved cross-country.

  I've heard that 'they' try to control us by this B.S. But all they have ever done to me is cause irritation.

  Mustang
  Letting off steam class
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  King of North-Muslims

  by Dogpatch in

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  just in case you passed it by, ciro aulicino from bethel speaks out on armageddon, muslims and the king of the north, reading apostate literature, and what the watchtower did after sept. 11th to help.

  a must listen!.

  http://www.randytv.com/whatfutureholds.htm

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  mustang

  Randy,

  Are you going to post a transcipt or printout, or just leave this in audio??

  Mustang
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  VERY interesting (April 1, 2002 WT, p.19)

  by stevieb1 in

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  this statement is prety interesting.

  it's taken from the very latest watchtower article (april 1, 2002) the final sentence of paragraph 14 reads:.

  "if jehovah's organization knowingly endorsed false teachings, advice to read the bible would never be given to jehovah's witnesses and those to whom they preach.".

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  Next verse: "And above all, we are SPIRIT DIRECTED." (Because our horde of lawyers advised us that this would be proper weasel-wording to evade the 'Death to False Prophets' clause.)

  This is yet another instance of the 'we are right, even when we are wrong' reasoning used by WTS.

  In this evolving revelation of the way WTS 'does business', it looks like Siegswife may have made the ultimate statement. You could add 'In other words, do it our way or else'.

  And I fully expect the follow-up WT/article for which this was an obvious lead-in. The question is did the 'Prophet Englishmun' get the title right!!!

  Double AARRGGHHH as Snoopy, would say.

  Mustang
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  Part 8: Defining Moment - visit with Ray Franz

  by Amazing in

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  i asked jesus to help me be just a christian, and no more religion in my life.

  when he answered, i told him who i was, and that i just sent off a letter ... but i wanted to talk to him to see if he might be available on the weekend i was there.

  ray would not hear of it, and asked me to stay at his home for the weekend with he and his wife.

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  Amazing,

  "I am asked by some colleagues to accompany them on a Vendor Audit
  to Huntsville, Alabama. They needed someone from my department to provide engineering support."

  OK, from your engineering days. Just a "SWAG", but Huntsville always makes me think of SCI.

  Hit or miss?
  Mustang
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  About Do Not Calls

  by LB in

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  i'm not having a lot of luck convincing my wife to just let us fade away.

  she's in the middle of the angry stage.

  so, i told her i would post this question and get imput from you people.

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  LB,

  I know of this circumstance:

  A friend had a number of roommates over a period of years. One of those roommates had his vehicle in prominent display at the friends house. While working on the vehicle the Dubs approached. This person told the Dubs they weren't welcome because a person living there was a former JW & did not want to be disturbed. The JW's did stay away until that roommate left and his vehicle disappeared. Then they gradually came back. This was over a period of about 4 years.

  There are three things to consider that can change this:

  1) Whether they actually honor the DNC w/o Legal Notices is a good question.

  2) You also have to deal with their (real to sneaky) thought process of 'maybe somebody moved'. Somebody actually did in this case.

  3) Somebody at the local KH could lose the records of the DNC.

  Bottom line: it's a crap-shoot, unless you take the strong steps mentioned by Alan.

  For a similar letter to Alan's check these 2 postings. This one has been posted a number of times and is not publicity sensitive. It is long and I recently posted it twice, so 'save the bandwidth'. Actually, there are several variations on the two posts.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18993&site=3

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18983&site=3

  I collect these.

  Cheers,
  Mustang
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  Need Help FAST!

  by TweetieBird in

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  my son (who's 15) came home from the meeting last night (he thinks he wants to be a witness, but that's in another thread) and said that his grandmother (my mother-in-law) told him my reason for not going to meetings (the un thing, also discussed in another thread).

  he told me that i need to talk to the po about it as he had heard about it a while back and has some information.. hmmmm, me thinks the mom-in-law has been talking to the po about what i told her last week.

  i'm sure that i will be getting a shepherding call (a drop-by, unscheduled visit) by him this weekend.

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  Some thoughts:

  What the SpinDoctor said was possibly what happened in practical terms.
  DON'T use that; let 'em squirm. :)

  (I am NOT a JW apologist; I share your question about SpinDoctor. Is it a JW or JW apologist?)

  Don't forget the 'Library Card' excuse (cover-up). That is blown away by the fact that any organization (with or without degreed researchers) can apply and get access to the UN central or remote libraries WITHOUT joining the UN.

  Three things:

  1) If they did it on purpose, AREN'T THEY HYPOCRITES?

  2) If they did it by accident, then they 'were just imperfect men'. Well, Bible says that Jehovah would send the spirit as a helper. This should have been prevented. Since it wasn't, ARE THEY REALLY SPIRIT-DIRECTED?

  Also, on the subject of the IMPERFECT MEN DOCTRINE, see this posting:
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=11418&site=3

  3) If they are covering it up, they are hypocrites; since the spirit would not be involved with evil or causing evil, ARE THEY REALLY SPIRIT-DIRECTED?

  It's always nice to understand motives and give them a choice. :)

  And remember, do like Jeopardy, the game show: ASK IT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION!!! INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.

  Let the Elder's sidesteps and dumb answers pass. Thank him for being so instructive. He will know what a lousy job he did, though. :)

  Mustang