MuzicmanCa

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  Disengaged Thanks!

  by qwerty in

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  disengaged.

  in some respects i should be flattered that you used my animations (sorry the animations i have personally chosen) for your post.

  come on there are loads of animation sites, please use something different as your permanent animation.. i feel that once we've found a pic or animation and no doubt other will agree, that they become personal to us, plus other posters recognize us by them.. .

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  A Guest...

  When was the last time you had sex?!? I'm sorry, but you are WAY too uptight. Let it go...

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  WORD ASSOCIATION

  by nicolaou in

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  need a break from the project (and just plain missing you all!).

  so who's up for a little light relief in the form of a good old game of 'word association'?.

  i'll kick us off with a word and you simply post your reply highlighting the first word you thought of - and so on and so on and so on ........ nic'.

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  worldy girls

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  What's the big deal?

  by MuzicmanCa in

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  i am just going to play devil's advocate here for a second since i need help reasoning something out again.

  i think i have the answer, but i just need to do this outloud and hear some responses to make sure i am clear on this particular issue.. i remember once, when i first came across a lengthy write-up on the faulty reasoning the wts used to come up with the whole 1914 thing, i was having dinner with an older bro who, at the time, was a very close friend of mine.

  i asked him directly just how valid the date was and if what i was reading on the internet had any credibility.

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  Farkel...

  I know the evidence is there...I've read it, not all, of course, but enough to know that the proof is there. What I don't understand is the motivation behind mainting the stand that they do...it just seems kinda dumb...

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  What's the big deal?

  by MuzicmanCa in

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  i am just going to play devil's advocate here for a second since i need help reasoning something out again.

  i think i have the answer, but i just need to do this outloud and hear some responses to make sure i am clear on this particular issue.. i remember once, when i first came across a lengthy write-up on the faulty reasoning the wts used to come up with the whole 1914 thing, i was having dinner with an older bro who, at the time, was a very close friend of mine.

  i asked him directly just how valid the date was and if what i was reading on the internet had any credibility.

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  I am just going to play devil's advocate here for a second since I need help reasoning something out again. I think I have the answer, but I just need to do this outloud and hear some responses to make sure I am clear on this particular issue.

  I remember once, when I first came across a lengthy write-up on the faulty reasoning the WTS used to come up with the whole 1914 thing, I was having dinner with an older bro who, at the time, was a very close friend of mine. I asked him directly just how valid the date was and if what I was reading on the internet had any credibility. His answer in short was basically that what all these "apostates" are trying to do is prove that the kingdom of God is not here; that if they can disprove the date then they can prove that Jesus presence is not really here on earth, that Jehovah's work is not really being done; basically that all efforts of the JW's are futile...

  Here is where I think I am stuck. What's the big deal in that? Isn't it the point that if the WTS is holding on for some silly reason such as pride, control, or whatever, to some broken thought, it goes to reason that there must be something else that is being hidden, other doctrine that is being purposefully contaminated or distorted for some unknown purpose(s); that this is an organization, not by the people itself, but by it's very system and structure that cannot be trusted?

  But here's what I don't get. Why DOESN'T the WTS just come out and use the very information that has been presented to disprove 1914, say to the JWs "Hey look guys....FORGET 1914...forget dates all together from now on...that was wrong of us...from now on let's focus on the point of the matter (from their veiwpoint anyway) and just be doing the door to door work..." and so on and so forth. They would still have the donations...the service....all their petty little rules... They can still have their kingdom and make lots of dry magazines to talk about it as they think it is. It just seems to me, that something to that effect would be the smart thing to do...if nothing else, just for the sake of politics...I just don't see what the whole big fight is about. If it's obvious it's wrong, just change it. People are pretty reasonable, I think most of us could understand an honest mistake. But to be a blowhard and hold on to this false premise for this long...I just don't get it. What could possibly motivate someone to be that STUPID!??! It just doesn't make sense to me....

  I dunno...I know this is just one of many issues, but this is just one that is standing out in my mind at the moment...
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  New and amused

  by Commie Chris in

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  i have been lurking here for a few weeks and just registered.

  i was briefly a jw - df'd 6 years ago.

  my story is posted under personal experiences.

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  Welcome Chris...what part of Canada? I am in Victoria on Vancouver Island...Are we neighbors?

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  Part II of Survey! Please Respond Again.Thank's.

  by Big Jim in

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  the first survey i asked how you were brought into the non-truth.

  my next survey is along the same line, however what i would like to find out is on the average how many hours you spent in the field service and were you ever able to bring anyone into the non-truth via field service or via incidental witnessing.. and how long you were associated with the borg?.

  thank you in advance for your input.

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  From the time I was about 10 until the time I moved out at 18, I was obligated by my family to go out every Saturday and would put in about 10 hours a month. But once I moved out unitil I was DF'd at 26, I think I went out in service mabe thirty times total. I HATED going door to door, bothing people at their private homes. I couldn't stand the thought of being a source of nuisance to people when most just don't want anything to do with us. But I wanted to maintain a good "image" (isn't that how you can tell a "spiritual person" in the WTS, by looking at their documented records and their appearance?) So I always just lied and said about 20 hrs/month. Too bad I was df'd I almost made it to MS...bummer...what a disappointment...NOT!!! Certainly never brought anyone into the WTS.

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  WORD ASSOCIATION

  by nicolaou in

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  need a break from the project (and just plain missing you all!).

  so who's up for a little light relief in the form of a good old game of 'word association'?.

  i'll kick us off with a word and you simply post your reply highlighting the first word you thought of - and so on and so on and so on ........ nic'.

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  AH CRIPES....Always the social dunce in the group I am...I was supposed to do it off of the last person posting not the first...
  right?

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  If so....then off waiting I would say....energy...
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  WORD ASSOCIATION

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  need a break from the project (and just plain missing you all!).

  so who's up for a little light relief in the form of a good old game of 'word association'?.

  i'll kick us off with a word and you simply post your reply highlighting the first word you thought of - and so on and so on and so on ........ nic'.

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  stepmother

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  Sound Bites from BRCI #2 of 3

  by Amazing in

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  in response to the account shared in sound bite #1, one former jw who is very active in the ex-jw work, asked a former bethelite if these gb men, and others in responsible positions, are at all concerned about the flock they publish literature to.

  this was asked in response to some of the accounts given about how they deal with issues and eventually publish their finished products.. the former bethelite had to admit that they really didn't care, even when they knew that published policy and material was not right.

  not they they were totally uncaring, but felt helpless because they just see themselves as 'cogs' in a big organizational machine.

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  To anyone:

  I was just wondering what BRCI stood for...what is it???

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  Sound Bites from BRCI #2 of 3

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in response to the account shared in sound bite #1, one former jw who is very active in the ex-jw work, asked a former bethelite if these gb men, and others in responsible positions, are at all concerned about the flock they publish literature to.

  this was asked in response to some of the accounts given about how they deal with issues and eventually publish their finished products.. the former bethelite had to admit that they really didn't care, even when they knew that published policy and material was not right.

  not they they were totally uncaring, but felt helpless because they just see themselves as 'cogs' in a big organizational machine.

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  To anyone:

  I was just wondering what BRCI stood for...what is it???

  Muzicman