Posts by Naeblis

Beetle I wasn't talking about witness policy or the religion in general. I was talking about the people. The religion itself causes a lot of heartache, for those on the outside AND the inside.

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Introducing myself.

by Danni in

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hello eveyone.

forgive me for just jumping in your threads without giving some information about myself.. my name is danni.

i am a law enforcement officer.

Naeblis

It is enforced by disfellowshipping as well, disfellowshipping being the removal from the religion. So basically you're threatened with the same thing. Shun them or be shunned.

Some people do call the cops but not many, remember most of the people who leave the religon or are leaving it just want to fade away. The last thing they want is to cause even more attention to fall on themselves. Also, the elders are influential in the religion, to many people, they just aren't disagreed or messed with.

The friend I'm speaking about had elders parked outside her house in the middle of the night. They came to her work to talk to her when she specifically told them not to and called her constantly. This is common.

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Introducing myself.

by Danni in

jw
friends

hello eveyone.

forgive me for just jumping in your threads without giving some information about myself.. my name is danni.

i am a law enforcement officer.

Naeblis

Danni the shunning aspect of it is true although it seems to vary region to region. There are some people who willnot even look at a person who has left the religion yet there are others who don't seem to care. The official Watchtower view is that you do not associate with people who have left although this is not strictly enforced everywhere. Regardless, this is a cruel and damaging belief. A friend of mine who was leaving the religion had Elders following her around. This happens and is inexcusable. Your friends are right to warn you as you may experience a lot of pain getting involved with the Witnesses. I never said that the religion is a healthy one, but I also hesitate to swing to the extreme like some people and declare every witness an evil person.

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Introducing myself.

by Danni in

jw
friends

hello eveyone.

forgive me for just jumping in your threads without giving some information about myself.. my name is danni.

i am a law enforcement officer.

Naeblis

Don't be a child Avengers. Just because I don't agree with the fanatical rumblings of a few hardcore witness haters does not mean that I am going back. I see the problems with the religion, but I'm not so blinded by hate that I don't see that there are good people within the ranks. Grow up.

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Introducing myself.

by Danni in

jw
friends

hello eveyone.

forgive me for just jumping in your threads without giving some information about myself.. my name is danni.

i am a law enforcement officer.

Naeblis

Nono I wasn't implying that is what you felt. But someone obviously has led you to think that or is telling you that. Listen, The Witnesses as a whole believe in some things that are damaging. Some of their doctrine, in particular the blood doctrine and their attitudes towards sexual abuse in children is horrible and dangerous. The people at the top running things have a lot of explaining to do, but the average witness knows nothing of these matters. They believe because it is what they always have believed. They are victims not monsters. learn all you can about the witnesses and if in the end you decide that it is acceptable to be with someone you love then that is your decision. But do not think that you can change him or get him to leave, this is extremely rare and very difficult. He will resent you for trying. In my opinion any attempt at a relationship with this person is pure folly. But you're a grown wopman and you can make your own decisions.

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Introducing myself.

by Danni in

jw
friends

hello eveyone.

forgive me for just jumping in your threads without giving some information about myself.. my name is danni.

i am a law enforcement officer.

Naeblis

Jehovah's Witnesses are not cold and evil inside. They may be misguided but they are no different from the average person. There has to be a middle ground. I'm getting a bit sick and tired of the attitudes of some people here who portray the people inside the Organization as cold blooded killers. Enough people. This is ridiculous.

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Witness memory #2332

by Naeblis in

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(cause even i like to post witness stuff at times).

* names have been changed to protect the innocent.. "tim!

get to the hall as quick as you can tonight.

Naeblis

It's crossed my mind but not too seriously. Drop me an email if you like. [email protected]

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Witness memory #2332

by Naeblis in

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(cause even i like to post witness stuff at times).

* names have been changed to protect the innocent.. "tim!

get to the hall as quick as you can tonight.

Naeblis

(Cause even I like to post witness stuff at times)

It wasn't often that I received a frenzied phone message to get to the Kingdom hall early, particularily from my friend Ruddinger*

* Names have been changed to protect the innocent.

"Tim! Get to the hall as quick as you can tonight. I need your help." There was nothing of the casual indifference that had become this young man's personality. There was a stark terror and rumblings of ominous vibrations. So I went early.

At 7:25 pm I waltzed into the semi-crowded kingdom hall, brushing aside the mildy disapproving stares of the middle aged, quietly floating through the mildly desperate conversation of the local 28 year old female virgin. Ruddiger waqs at the back of the hall angrily chewing at his fingernails, which were now bloodly slivers of their former glory. He looked at me and muttered to himself, his too large body draped in a 100 dollar suit bought 3 years ago.

"This is early??" he whispered furiously. "You're lucky I need your help or I'd punch you in the face.

I rolled my eyes and we made our way downstairs, his looks behind him only slightly less obvious then his mismatched socks.

"I forgot I had a talk tonight.." he groaned as we opened the door to the library, the favourite refuge for troublemakers, pregnant moms, and hungover Greeks.

"What?"

"I forgot about it, I got caught up with school and it just slipped my mind." He ran his hands through his buzzed psuedo-hair. "I already begged myself out of the last two, I couldn't get out of this one. I'm screwed, you gotta help me!"

I reminded him that I did NOT in fact have to help him, as I had written his last 3 talks with
him welching on payment every time (I had a mildy successful talk writing business) But of course.. I did.

You brothers have been there. It isn't very difficult to write one of these little ditties. The cliched intro, a few questions leading into the bible reading, followed with a tie in to how the mutterings of crazed desert folk 4000 years ago IS in fact relevant to us today. I was done in 10 minutes and with hardly a moment to spare he was on that stage, his trademark stony face spitting forth his trade mark indifferently monotoned words.

Here I am sitting in my regular seat at the back of the hall in "Troublemakers Row" and I'm looking around wondering how noone notices. How do people not know this was written in the middle stall as I released from my bowely prison my earlier lunch. Finally content to finish mangling some dimly remembered chapter in daniel, my compadre stumbled through his conclusion, and with a relieved glance in my direction, slouched his way to his seat. It was done. For another 5 weeks at least.

"Excellent!" boomed the mechanic-god from the top of his podium. "Brother Ruddiger, I can tell that you put a lot of thought into this talk, the way you delivered your conclusion really illustrates how familiar you were with the material. It is evident that you spent a lot of time familiarizing yourself with the scriptures. Well done. I am marking you as "Good" In your point you were working in, "How to appear interested when bored."

He turned and looked at me, incredulity shining through his normally stoic mask of "I don't care." I shrugged. Hell. The number two stall was always lucky.