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How would you respond?

by mole in

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i have been "inactive" for the past 12 years.

with the recent events, my mom decides to send me this letter as she can not carry on a dialog about things that normal families talk about.

i know she thinks she is looking out for her son's best interests for i used to feel as she does about anyone who leaves da "troot.

Depends on if you want to 'get into it' with her or not. If you want to take the high road a simple "Thanks for the thoughts Mom, but me and my family are perfectly happy and content right how we are". At least you acknowlegde the thought/concern, however warped it might be.

On the other hand, there is PLENTY of material on this site and others that you could launch into a full blown attack on the WTBTS if you wanted Maybe start with asking her why "Jehovah" would want you to teach your children about an org who was a part of the 'wild beast'? See threads related to WTBTS being a UN NGO for detail... there's plenty more.

Good luck either way - I'm waiting for the day when my parents hit me with one of these guilt letters too ...

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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

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perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

NameWithheld

LOL! Whatever. Like all prophets you say things then interpret them after events occur. Have fun Booby, I'm outa here.

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dissfellowshipping???

by dont know in

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my cousin is a jehovahs witness.

his girlfriend is only 16 and she is a jehovahs witness too.

they have sex and stuff and they said they want to tell there elders so they can confess but he is afraid her parents will charge him with statutory rape.

NameWithheld

You'd better believe that A) they will be DF'ed as quick as you can (except the girl since she's not baptised, but she will be marked/shunned), B) EVERYONE including the parents will know exactly why. There are no secrets in that org despite all their claims. In fact, their 'sins' will likely be exagerated greatly be the time the gossip factory is done with them.

Tell you cousin to keep his mouth shut tight, and either quit having sex with that young girl or at least please be sure and wear a condom!

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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

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perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

NameWithheld

It was, yes that is correct. Either a collapse or a state of war was what I wagered.
I taunted some boaster to pay off their lost wager not because the financial system had collapsed, obviously it hasn't yet, but rather because there is this little matter of a war now looming.

God damn it Booby, stop trying to out and out lie that you 'wagered' that the US would be at war!!!!!!!!!!!

You said ...

My proposed wager is this: I will wager 100 bucks, that before the end of the month of October that the present financial system will be in a full-blown panic crisis; and, if not in a crash-down mode, then certainly in a state of war.

How do you propose to change the meaning of the words "the present financial system will be in a full-blown panic crisis; and, if not in a crash-down mode, then certainly in a state of war"?

THE PRESENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM WILL BE ... IN A STATE OF WAR.

Pretty plain words IMO. Don't pretend you can alter their meaning now, be a man and stand behind what you said, even if it is stupid.

Stop twisting what you plainly said. Liar.

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I D Cards First Step Down Slippery Slope?

by Englishman in

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the uk government has announced that it is very serious about making it compulsory for citizens to carry an id card in view of the risk of subversive activity increasing.

it seems to me that this is the thin edge of the wedge.

i spent years trying to get out of a repressive organisation, and then even more years getting that organisations brain-washing out of my head.

NameWithheld

I have heard the news reports regarding these cards, nowhere have I heard anything about it being manditory to carry it - like a drivers license, you carry it when you need it, don't carry it when it isn't necessary.

Ah, only when it's needed 'eh? Well, what if you 'need' it to drive? Purchase food? Walk into public parks? Walk to the store? That's a pipe dream. We create that ID and it WILL ALWAYS BE WITH YOU. End of story.

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I D Cards First Step Down Slippery Slope?

by Englishman in

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the uk government has announced that it is very serious about making it compulsory for citizens to carry an id card in view of the risk of subversive activity increasing.

it seems to me that this is the thin edge of the wedge.

i spent years trying to get out of a repressive organisation, and then even more years getting that organisations brain-washing out of my head.

NameWithheld

OK, what happens when G Bush (or whoever) delcares martial law and shuts down the elections "in the interest of fighting our enemies". Far-fetched? Yes. Possible? Yes. Don't kid yourself, the people w/ the guns have the power. When the Nat'l Gaurd comes to your town and says 'stay in your homes or be shot' that democracy is over. I'm not a consperacy theory nut, but I'm not naive either. The gov't is interested mainly in growing it's power/wealth, not in the people's best interest. Abuse by those in positions of athority are well documented.

Again, this is a long shot, but why give the gov't another peice of your freedom when it will do no good? What are you trying to accomplish? Like some have noted, we already have a nat'l ID, it's called the SS#. Try doing ANYTHING without that #. You can't. And when they created it in the 30's they SWORE it would not be used for that. Now it is. Let history be your guide. Our 'democracy' is more socialistic then ever before in history. We all expect the federal gov't do do everything for us. That's not the intentions that the founders of this country had. They wanted a very weak and limited federal gov't.

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I D Cards First Step Down Slippery Slope?

by Englishman in

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the uk government has announced that it is very serious about making it compulsory for citizens to carry an id card in view of the risk of subversive activity increasing.

it seems to me that this is the thin edge of the wedge.

i spent years trying to get out of a repressive organisation, and then even more years getting that organisations brain-washing out of my head.

NameWithheld

Everyone should have to carry i.d. cards.
We have a really nasty world that has been on the brink of the latest kind of thing for awhile. Add to that retinal scans and fingerprints. I don't think us law-abiding citizens should have anything to hide but it's bound to affect the scum of the earth.

And when the 'law' requires you to kill all Jews/Arabs/Whoever what then? Think that card is such a good idea? I admit this is far fetched, but you might have thought the same thing as a German 100 years ago. There is NO REASON to have anything like this. It WOULD NOT have done a thing to prevent the attacks on the 11th. They would have faked the Nat'l ID just like they did a Passport.

Outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns. See what I mean?

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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

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perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

NameWithheld

Post this one more time, as You Don't Know Sh*t seems to have no reply -

So you think you can explain away what you said huh? Need I remind you ...
OK, ONCE AGAIN - Let's see Mr Booby Slave ... you said ...

My proposed wager is this: I will wager 100 bucks, that before the end of the month of October that the present financial system will be in a full-blown panic crisis; and, if not in a crash-down mode, then certainly in a state of war.

How do you propose to change the meaning of the words "the present financial system will be in a full-blown panic crisis; and, if not in a crash-down mode, then certainly in a state of war"?

THE PRESENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM WILL BE ... IN A STATE OF WAR.

Pretty plain words IMO. Don't pretend you can alter their meaning now, be a man and stand behind what you said, even if it is stupid.

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I D Cards First Step Down Slippery Slope?

by Englishman in

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the uk government has announced that it is very serious about making it compulsory for citizens to carry an id card in view of the risk of subversive activity increasing.

it seems to me that this is the thin edge of the wedge.

i spent years trying to get out of a repressive organisation, and then even more years getting that organisations brain-washing out of my head.

NameWithheld

Here's the problem -

You go to buy a coke from a vending machine. You can't unless you first insert your Nat'l ID card. You go to take a jog in the park. Suddenly a uniformed officer stops and demands your ID card. You don't have pockets in your sweat pants so you are detained (and treated automatically as a criminal) until you can produce your papers. This is a BAD idea. It is a way to allow the gov't to monitor your EVERY move whenever they feel like it.

"I have nothing to worry about 'cause I don't break the law!" You say. Well, what happens when something you consider a personal/constitutional right is suddenly 'against the law'?

The Nazi's had a really efficent system of papers too. They didn't have much/any terrorism. Perhaps we should mold ourselves after their gov't, after all it worked right? And as long as you obeyed the law as a good little German you were OK. But that law might have required you to mass murder a few Jews, that was OK 'cause the gov't knows best right? It's there to protect you right?

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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

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perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

NameWithheld

Booby King's wet dream = the use of nukes SOMEWHERE or "Your world coming down"

He'd be right at home in one of Tallyman's pictures.