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Wow, that would be powerful stuff, to have a copy of the Awake in one hand, and a UN publication in the other, and be able to say "See, this is what they had to print to stay associated with the UN DPI, ALL to keep a liberary card?!" - I would say that this might even crack the shell for my family (maybe, though, they're pretty up to their necks in the BS).
PS, thanks again to you and zev for all the work that you have put into this!!!!!
i'd like to start by asking the question can you belive in evolution and not in the possibilty of alien life?.
if the known laws of nature are all that are needed to create life undirected is there any basis for anyone doubting the probable existance of other creatures apart from our own?.
if this is the case is there any reason to doubt that there could be beings of a different nature or more advanced than us?
I would pose this question as well ... if 'god' were to show up tomorrow, wouldn't people in general think that he/she/it were just some scary space alien and perhaps try and nuke him/her/it?
zev's internet site is up and running at:.
( http://www.geocities.com/plowbitch69/.
zev's site will have a few more features added to it by next week.
hawkaw:
You mentioned that the WTBTS had to print UN DPI articles ... by this do you mean that the UN provided material to the WTBTS for printing? And if they did are the words/articles available from non WTBTS sources? I guess what I'm getting at is - is there a non-WTBTS publication that contains the same/very similar articles as in is the Awake? If so that would be powerful evidence that the WTBTS was being used as a UN mouthpeace ...
here is an example of what passes for thought provoking poetry among the dubs.
(try not to hurl).... of all my years as a witness, the times were not always good.. too many mistakes were being made, the brothers not doing what they should.. as i look back now there are times, i can recall, when i did not even look forward to going to the kingdom hall.. the brothers showed no love.. they didn't seem to care.. the elders were unyielding, demanding and unfair.. meetings were dull and boring; field service was a chore.. there wasn't much of a "pioneer spirit,".
while going from door to door.. it would not get any better, as i hoped it would.. i knew the day was coming when i would leave jehovah's house for good.. but happily, it's so different now, jehovah has been so kind.. he has allowed me a wonderful congregation to find.. the spirit is so strong here.. the brothers really care.. i couldn't be more happy if i were anywhere!.
I was wondering is anyone else had noticed that cycle that happens with so many JWs.
Starts with poor Mr and Ms depressed dub unhappy in local cong. They see all the hypocracy, lies, cheating, lack of love, clicks, backbiting, etc going on, but still "wait on Jehovah" to fix everything. Finally things get bad enough that they a) switch halls if in a city w/ multiple halls, or b) move to a new place.
New place = the typical love bombing that often occurs to new ones. However, months or years go by and the veils are lifted on the true conditions in the new hall - it's the same as the last one! So they eventually a) switch halls if in a city w/ multiple halls, or b) move to a new place.
Repeat as often as needed.
if you ever get stuck going to brooklyn bethel and.
hearing about watchtower propaganda, you might want.
to look at an antidote.. the museum of natural history - in manhattan.. in the section on human origins, they have a skeleton.
Theists, on the other hand, believe that something even more complex, that nobody has ever seen or has any evidence exists, has always existed!
Ha ha, how true. I always struggled with that one, I mean, you go around trying to tell people "Obviously all these things were created by SOMEONE, you don't think a house just created itself do you?" While out of the other side of our mouths we were claiming that some all powerful, all knowing, always existing god/spirit creature did indeed "Just happen". Of course, that fell into the realm of 'wait on Jehovah to explain' since our feeble human brains cannot wrap around that catch-22.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/f8a02880/bc/pets/gbmeeting.jpg?bcprjr8a2vkw89x.. .
because of a techno-glitch i dont think youll be seeing the meeting just yet.
however if you right-click on the red x - go into properties - copy the url address (this works better from left to right) - put the address into you browser - then return to the thread and copy the text beginning with ?
Where's Sir Fred the kitty, did the mean doggies eat the apostate Fred kitty?
i just received my watchtower of december 15th, 2001. .
qfr is "how can a christian wife balance loyalty to god with submission to her unbelieving husband if he shares in religious holiday activities?".
[btw, the german edition does not say "unbelieving" but "who is not a jw].
Ha ha ha ha, you have to check the latest WT to see if it's OK to cook your hubby a nice turky dinner! And in the end, what help do you really get?
"Some Christian wives might be able to do so with a good conscience."
And the incredible wisdom of:
"Of course, a Christian wife should think of others - the effect on them"
No wonder JWs are all head cases. Do you or don't you. If you do should you sneak shop at midnight least some poor unsuspecting Brother Weakling see you purchasing a turkey? Should you lock the doors and draw the shades as you cook the aposate turkey - Brother Weakling might be peeking through the windows you know. What if the turkey ends up being demonized? Will it call out to it's little smurf freinds? Will Jehovah help you fight the demon turkey - after all you probably shouldn't have been cooking it in the first place!
Let's get to the meat here Mr WT writer - tell us how to cook our demonized turkey!
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-girl14.html.
i caught this on a link from a link from a link.
the group known as the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses disavowed corporal punishment as an acceptable way to discipline children, said j.r. brown, a national spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses.. "it has nothing to do with the religion,'' brown said.
just like an anti- see what you want and ignore the proof
Just like a JW - see what you want and ignore the proof
what to these 28 "lands" have in common?.
american samoa.
anguilla.
Yea I thought so but was lamely attempting humor.
i just received my watchtower of december 15th, 2001. .
qfr is "how can a christian wife balance loyalty to god with submission to her unbelieving husband if he shares in religious holiday activities?".
[btw, the german edition does not say "unbelieving" but "who is not a jw].
ballistic: ? And just what was that? The horrible "M" (asturbation), or worse yet the big "F" (ornication)
If so he's right, they're all doing it ...
