Posts by Theredeemer

Off topic but did anyone else ask the conductor before the wt study to look for you at a certain paraghraph that you had prepared when you were a little kid?

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Since The Bible Sponsors Disciplining Your Children Do JWs Say It Is OK Spank A Child?

by minimus in

jw
friends

is it ok to spank your kids?

is it ok to discipline them using any force?.

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Theredeemer

Yep because the hardest Ive ever been spanked was when I was supposed to comment at a meeting and I fell asleep. When we got home I got spanked like never before. I was 5.

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Is It Just Me??

by What Now? in

we're 2 years in to our exit from the witnesses.

we're not disfellowshipped or disassociated ... just inactive.

none of our friends speak to us anymore.

Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

Theredeemer

(after taking a hit) What if...like...evolution is God..and..like God is evolution man?....I want Cheetos puffs!

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Is It Just Me??

by What Now? in

we're 2 years in to our exit from the witnesses.

we're not disfellowshipped or disassociated ... just inactive.

none of our friends speak to us anymore.

Theredeemer

What now. NEVER LOOK BACK!

My wife and I also lost all our friends. We were never disfellowshipped and we kept our relationship with fam, also strained at times. We both have been shunned at grocery stores and other places.

Trust me. You will get over it.

They are right.

Your kid is different from the children at the KH.

He will be unconditionally loved, without nightmares of impending armageddon, future in a good college, the chance to be who he wants to be, he will grow up to take advantage of every opportunity there is in the world, whatever friends he does make will be friends with him unconditionally and he will never be shunned for making mistakes like we all do. These are the things that I never had. These are the opportunities that I never got to experience or take advantage of.

Please do not take the away because its taking a while to make new friends.

Do yourself a favor, get off Facebook for a while or unfriend the witnesses in it. Tell your family to suck a fat one if they tell you crap like that. Defend your choices and defend your child to the teeth!

You are an Apostate: OWN IT BABY!

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Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

Theredeemer

Personally I would never tell my kid that santa is real.

So are they saying that evolution is guided by God or is it still natural selection?

If evolution is real then could you say that we are perfect since evolution is perfect being that God started it all?

Why punish us for our inate evolutionary desires?

If evolution is real then doesnt that mean we are meant to die?

If Jesus died so we can now go to heaven, doesnt that mean God is intervening with evolution which he allowed to progress to the state that we die?

If God never meant for us to die then does that mean he has no control of evolution thus making him not all powerful and in control?

If he is in control and this is the course that evolution took us in then is he evil for allowing us to suffer for his personal amusment?

If evolution is real and god created the spark then can you just call all these trillions and trillions of years his experiment?

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Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

Theredeemer

If Evolution was used to create all things then did he use it to create angels? From what did they evolve from?

If we are a product of evolution then was there original sin with Adam and Eve? If they did not exist then doesnt that completely destroy the idea of original sin?

If there was no original sin why was there a need for Jesus?

If evolution is the means that god used then why bring humans to heaven?

Where does hell and heaven fit in the evolutionary path?

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Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

Theredeemer

At what point will more religious people realise that all of the biblical stories are just that stories? When will they realise that their faith can be placed on love and mutual respect, not some imaginary figure that represents these two things?

We do not need religion to 'guide' us anymore. We are realising that religion actually creates a divide between people rather than unite.

Glad to see steps in the right direction.

Imagine no religion. I wonder if you can.

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BU2B comments on "Are you convinced you have the truth? Why?" WT article.

by BU2B in

i want to start doing a wt review on certain articles.

i think we need as much discussion as possible breaking down these mind control sessions.

i cannot compare with blondie, but i will do my best.

Theredeemer

"Jehovahs people are progressing in faith, zeal and love ...Its a modern day miracle" So for what reasons are people getting disfellowshipped? Why are witnesses getting divorced like everyone else? They say former atheist like its a big deal. OOO we converted an atheist! We are the greatest religion in the world!!