Posts by Dunedain

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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

by mentallyfree31 in

who were your past circuit overseers?

i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

Dunedain

I remember a brother Conti, from many years ago, probably over 30. Northeast, tri-state area. He was a monster. I can actually remember pioneer sisters, saying "i am scared of him". I was like 10 years old, and those comments still stay with me 30 years later, lol.

I remember when Conti was visiting for the week, and it was the Thursday night service meeting. he was up on the stage giving his talk, and there was a brother walking around, in the back of the hall. Mind you, this brother was a ministerial servant, and was DOING STUFF, for the meeting. Like either the sound, or getting some wires ready for the next part. In the CO's mind, HE SHOULD NOT BE DOING THIS, so i remember Bro Conti, stopping his talk, mid-talk, and saying, " I AM GOING TO WAIT TO CONTINUE, UNTIL THIS BROTHER SITS DOWN", and very loudly. The brother, who was involved, intensively with getting the equipment ready, in the back, is not even realising whats going on. So then Conti, literally, starts shaking the change in his pocket, louDER and LOUDER, until its at an absurd point. Now remember this is up on the stage, essentially stopping the meeting, dead in its tracks, to try and FORCE this brother, thru shame, to sit down, but mind you, the brother was doing his job, to get everything ready for the next part. It was ridiculous.

During this week that Conti was there, i happened to have the "luck" of working with him out in service. I was like 9 or 10 years old, my Dad was an Elder, so it was my "privilege" to work with him. Well at one door, Conti read the householder a scripture, and then asked him a question about the scripture, and the householder answered the question wrong. Conti then proceeded to tell the householder, "no you are wrong, see you arent even paying attention, Gods kingdom will be on EARTH, as it is in heaven".

What a psycho, you go to someones house, on a Saturday, wake them up, bother them, and instead of them kicking you off their stairs, they listen to your Bullshit, AND then you berate them for not knowing/answering your bullshit questions right. Looking back, its actually sick behavior.

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THE WATCHTOWER (STUDY EDITION) JANUARY 2016

by wifibandit in

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this issue contains the study articles for february 29 to april 3, 2016.. what about the number of those partaking at the memorial?12, 13. why should we not worry about the number of those who eat the bread and drink the wine at the memorial?12 in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christs death.

that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.

Dunedain

I LOVE, how they say " this special operation of holy spirit, becomes, a down payment, a GUARANTEE".

If its a GUARANTEE from Jehovah, then how can there be "question", whether some are authentic, or have mental issues, or not?

If this was, what is perhaps the MOST IMPORTANT decision in the history of humanity, the universe, and all that is, and ever will be, then WTF, would Jehovah allow there to be any misconstruing of it.

If Jehovah, CAN annoint someone by holy spirit, then i GUARANTEE, he can make sure someone does NOT feel annointed by a false feeling, Think about it folks.

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Does anybody know if the WTS, invests in the 2 companys of Lockheed Martin & Grumman Northrop, which are 2 of the biggest weapons suppliers?

by Dunedain in

i read in another thread, where it said that the wts, has investments from stocks, with the companys of lockheed martin and grumman northrop.

these are some of the biggest weapons suppliers to the us,uk, and israel.

i would think it would be very hypocritical for a christian organisation, that claims to be nuetral, and to "learn war no more", to invest money in companys that produce weapons, that are used in wars.. is this true, though?

Dunedain

I read in another thread, where it said that the WTS, has investments from stocks, with the companys of Lockheed Martin and Grumman Northrop. These are some of the biggest weapons suppliers to the US,UK, and Israel. I would think it would be VERY hypocritical for a Christian organisation, that claims to be nuetral, and to "learn war no more", to invest money in companys that produce weapons, that are used in wars.

Is this true, though? Does anyone here know, if the WTS has stocks in these companys? I dont want to start any false rumors, or anything like that, but i did read it somewhere, ONLY mentioned in a thread. Does anyone, have any proof of this, or articles, that show this? Or is this just speculation, or hearsay?

If anybody, has ANY info, or proof of this, i would appreciate if you could share it here. Maybe, this is even common knowledge to some, and i am "late to the game", and there is a thread about this already, but i have no idea, and would really like to know, and confirm this. Thanks in advance.

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What other Shenanigans can we expect to see in the next 2 years?

by John Aquila in

its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.

in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.

carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .

Dunedain

@ - Vidiot - You may very well be correct, idk. Maybe they are afraid of what ex-JW's can expose, if they come back. Or that they could be a bad "influence". For an org, that preaches so much love, and that they are the truth. They sure alienate and hurt, so many. They have no clue what they are doing. Even from a standpoint of, having more could mean more growth, more donations, more hearts reached, but NO, they cant even do that right. As quickly as some are brought thru the front door, is as quickly as they are kicked out thru the back door. They are idiots.

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What other Shenanigans can we expect to see in the next 2 years?

by John Aquila in

its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.

in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.

carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .

Dunedain

@ - Onefingersalute - Dude, i cant beleive that PO said that to you, or made a point to say it, via the "local needs" talk. What an unloving, judgemental, self-righteous, piece of SHIT. Talk about going against EVERYTHING that Jesus stood for. I had, an almost eerily similar, situation with my piece of shit Elders. They treated my 20 year old self, like i was worthless, and anything i had to say meant nothing. I couldnt have been repentant, in their eyes, they pre-judged my situation. In fact, i told them i was sorry, and that my actions proved repentance. They didnt care, and actually compared me to JUDAS, by saying, "oh well he repented too, after his act". What pieces of shit these MEN are, i have such anger, and hatred for them sometimes, for how they treat fellow humans.

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Adjusting

by cognac in

jw
friends

just feel like i could never make it on the outside world.

i was never able to adjust, except in being a mom and in business.

those are the only things that i feel strong in.

Dunedain

I agree with Millie. Really, you got the top 2 things, covered great. Being a Mom/parent, should be your first priority, and it sounds like you are doing great with that. Being succesfull in business, WOW, thats awesome, and quite an accomplishment. That one is usually number 2 on peoples list, some, without children, would say its number 1.

Maybe, you are having issues making friends. Well, just apply the skills you used to become a good Mom, and a good business person. It may come naturally, after that.

If its spirituality, that you are looking for, or not having an easy time adjusting too, that may be a bit harder, but it can be figured out. Thats part of everyones own personal journey. You should never let the org/GB, dictate what your spirituality is. Its between you and Jehovah, or you and the universe, or you and your own peace inside.

Dont be so hard on yourself, you are probably doing fine. Yes, we can always do better, but we have to take it one step at a time. Even 8 years, is not neccessarily a long time, in the scheme of life. If you accomplished being a great Mother, and a powerhouse in business, in 8 years of being "out", you should COMMEND yourself, and be PROUD.

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What other Shenanigans can we expect to see in the next 2 years?

by John Aquila in

its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.

in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.

carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .

Dunedain

If the GB, WAS to get rid of the door to door preaching, and institute tithing, and completely do away with the Watchtower mags, that would be foundationally earth shattering. MANY, MANY, will question, and awake, and be wondering, "what is going on with the org i ONCE new".

Those changes, specifically, would change manys mindset, because, those were things that the GB, has said for over 100 years, were the "proof" that they were the "chosen" org of Jehovah.

Going DOOR to DOOR, for years has been proclaimed as, "fullfilling bible prophecy" with Mathew 24:14. The tithing, is what the nation of Christendom does, and "we will never do this", has been toited over, and over, again by the WTS, as "proof" of the orgs "inspiration". The Watchtower magazine, is the "stinging scorpion", that will "expose" Christendom, thats what the GB has been saying for years, and as being proof of bible prophesy, fulfilling Revelation.

If they were to make the above, fundamental, changes, it would further undermine them as being an "inspired" organization. I actually hope they DO make those changes. It would show them for being so hypocritical, and full of shit, like many of their other false prophesies. Yes, there will still be some that will just sit there and nod their heads, like the brain washed idiots they are, BUT, beleive me, changes like doing away with door to door, instituting tithing, and doing away with their "flagship" magazine, WILL shake things up, and wake up many.

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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it

by LevelThePlayingField in

just had the co visit tonight.

i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.

then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.

Dunedain

Well then WE have an obligation to put the word out. However, we, of course, dont want to put out false info either, because then this undermines anything we say. Its a tough position to be in, because the Borg will never admit whats really happening, and the information is hard for us to get to the bottom of.

It would be great, if there was a letter, say that only CO's have gotten, that tells about the construction stoppages, and then we in turn got a copy of. Then we could show some JW's the letter, and be like, "look read this". Its just tough when nothing exists yet. However, putting together different letters, say from what the Special pioneers got, and what the Bethelites got, and maybe letters that some from the construction dept will get. Getting this info and posting it here, is key.

We are perhaps, at the very edges tipping point, of the WTS, seriously undergoing a radical change. This can result in the waking up of many to TTATT, and the exposing what the GB, is REALLY doing with the money, and where they are concerning financialy, concerning child abuse, concerning if they are growing or crumbling.

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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it

by LevelThePlayingField in

just had the co visit tonight.

i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.

then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.

Dunedain

@ - Leveltheplayingfield - Thanks dude for giving us some further info. I appreciate it, man, thank you.

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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it

by LevelThePlayingField in

just had the co visit tonight.

i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.

then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.

Dunedain

@ Wozza - They couldnt have said that, cause the GB doesnt curse. Cause cursing is bad, and bad words are scary.