Posts by Dunedain

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Gas prices today & the book study

by LevelThePlayingField in

we all remember, one of the main reasons for removing the bookstudy was the high gas prices, well, have you looked at the gas prices today?

nationwide, the lowest is about $1.65, the highest is about $2.67.

isn't that right about the same gas prices as when they cancelled the bookstudy in the first place?

Dunedain

Actually, i think the gas prices were even a bit higher, when they first cancelled the book studies. Based on that logic, since the gas prices are even cheaper now, why havent they reintroduced it?

Personally, i think the WTS realised that they were getting "nothing" out of the book study arrangement. There were no contribution boxes at the home book studies, that 90 % of the congregation went to. So the WTS probably figures, instead of having the R&F "waste" ANY money going to the book study, where there is NO chance of money going into a contribution box, they would cancel it, and have the R&F "save" that money, so it has a better chance of going into a contribution box in the Kingdom halls.

Its funny, too, how it used to be part of someones "reinstatement process", that they attended ALL the meetings that they could, to "measure spirituality". The Elders would say, "you should go to the Sunday meeting, the weekly ministry school meeting, AND even the BOOK STUDY that was held at the Kingdom hall. This, in the Elders eyes, showed how much you REALLY cared about being spiritual, and reinstated. Then one day, they just completely do away with the weekly book study. YET, that meeting used to be a "barometer" for spirituality/reinstatement.

AND, why in these "last days", when things should be ramping up, and our spiritual "food" should be increasing, and more important, would they completely do away with MORE spiritual food. I guarantee, cause it did NOT increase the WTS "revenues". It was an "unneccessary" meeting to the GB, and didnt fill the contribution boxes. It shows what they REALLY care about, and it is NOT the flocks spirituality, thats evident.

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Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

by smiddy in

thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

Dunedain

Or, maybe, none of us know EXACTLY what happened, and maybe we never will, either.

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Out of Control Flatbed Truck Crashes into Kingdom Hal

by oppostate in

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Dunedain

" And today, brothers, we are going to be discussing just how vulnerable we really are, in Satans system, Yes, anything can happen in the blink of an eye".

EEEEEERRRRRRRCCCHHHHH SSSSCCCRRRREEEEEECCCHHHH BOOOOOOOOOM

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children who are organized to do Jehovah's will

by Sabin in

the organized to do jehovah's will book pg 77, tells us haviing come to jesus, therefore, in response to his invitation to follow him, we have been blessed with knowledge of jah god & of jc.

we have been taught jah's ways.

with his help we have been able to make our mind over, change our personality, & harmonize our daily conduct with jah's righteous standards.

Dunedain

@ - WTWizard - What do you mean by, "Saturn in Sagitarius", and "suing and drugging tham back"? I am not sure i follow, and i mean no disrespect, i am actually interested to know what you are meaning about Saturn in Sagitarius. Thanks in advance for letting me know.

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1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

by berrygerry in

1914the turning point in history.

30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

Dunedain

Its so true, really think about how ridiculous for the WTS to think and say this. Do they REALLY think that a WORLD WAR just occurs overnight. The fact that it happened, was because of all the build up happening in the years prior. There was so much "tension" around the world/Europe, that the assasination of the Archduke, FINALLY ingnited the "flames". The point being, is that the "gasoline", the "matches", and the "fuses", were already in place from YEARS of build up.

Also, what about the many, many conflicts that existed in the 40 or 50 years PRE 1914. Just in America, their was the Civil War where OVER a million American soldiers DIED. The battle of Antietam lost over 20,000 men in 1 DAY. How about the genocidal extermination of a whole race and culture of people, the American indians, culminated during the years BEFORE 1914. How about the fact that one of the reasons the American Civil war happened was because of slavery. So yeah, what about the enslavement of a whole race of human beings only ending in 1865, 49 years BEFORE 1914, and it still continued MANY years after in South America.

What about all the colonys under the British and French empires, during the years BEFORE 1914. This included the oppression of millions of people around the WORLD, and the many conflicts and wars from the oppressed nations, trying to fight for their freedoms. The statement, "the sun never sets upon the British empire", was for a reason.

I am just scratching the surface here. The point being, is that "1914" and WW1, was just a CONTINUATION of constant world unrest. Just as many hardships, wars, and human atrocities, occurred in the 100 years before 1914, as the 100 years after 1914, and we are STILL here witnessing it.

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No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!

by John Aquila in

last night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.

there was beer and later some music.

everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.

Dunedain

The GB/WTS would NEVER allow meetings to stop, and face to face contact with the R&F. In short, they are probably going to continue to "ramp" up the website and videos, but will never go COMPLETELY digital in that respect.

One of their popular scriptures is always about true christians must "gather together", otherwise the "lone" person will seek his "own selfish desires". They are afraid of "splinter groups", and most of all, loosing control.

We all know this ORG is about "levels of sprituality". Its is true that its based on "titles", like Elder, MS, Pioneer, and publisher, which could exist in a completely "digital" setting, BUT, those "titles" are granted, based on meeting attendence, hours in service, and SEEING these persons in service, answering at meetings, giving public talks, a persons conduct, and their dress, and of course, many, many other factors that are based on physically "seeing" the R&F.

None of these things, which in this cult are used to measure someones "spirituality", can be measured from behind a computer. Even the GB knows that they couldnt use a person being "logged in", as meeting attendance, because the "sheep" would just log in, and then go in another room and watch a rated R movie, lol.

In a "high control cult", which the WTS is, it cant exist without them "meeting together", physically, so that the Gestapos in charge can "police" the flock. It is as "deep", and as "simple" as this, all in one.

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I think God is a Jokester, I'm starting to appreciate his words.

by James Mixon in

proverbs 27:14.

" a quarrelsome wife is like a constant dripping on a rainy day".

love it!!!.

Dunedain

@ - James Mixon - EXACTLY, you are correct about that one. For some reason, when i tell my 2 daughters one thing, but do something else, they call me out on it. Go figure, lol.

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Do you Share "Values" with the Murderers in Paris?

by Terry in

do you share values with the murderers in paris?.

a shocking question!.

is such a thing possible?.

Dunedain

" I spread disease like a dog, discharge my payload, a mile high rotten egg air of death, shall wrestle your nostrils, launch the Polaris, the end doesnt scare us, when will this cease, from warheads let them all rest in peace"

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I think God is a Jokester, I'm starting to appreciate his words.

by James Mixon in

proverbs 27:14.

" a quarrelsome wife is like a constant dripping on a rainy day".

love it!!!.

Dunedain

I always wondered why in the old testament God was quoted as saying, " I am a jealous God". Why would God have to be jealous, REALLY? Yet in other bible verses, when talking about "jealousy", it says how its "rottenous to the bones". I dont get it???

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Songs that have a JW meaning?

by GrownMidget in

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do you have any songs that you have listened and then thought that it also works from an apostate point of view?i have always liked this song, but one time realized that i was thinking how it sounds awfully familiar, if you think about those who have lost family/friends due to leaving.this song was originally made/written because one of the actors died in a car accident.

movie was still being filmed and many spots he was needed were never finished with him.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgkafk5djsk.

Dunedain

Unforgiven, by Metallica is about DF'ing.

"New blood joins this earth, and quickly its subdued, thru constant pained disgrace, the young boy learns their rules"