Posts by Dunedain

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Have we become what we despise so much?

by Tenacious in

the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

Dunedain

I am a fairly new member here, as I have joined this forum only about 4 or so months ago, and I can say that the "situation" that is mentioned in the OP, I have NOT experienced.

I, for one, was not loved bombed when I got here, and I do NOT mean to say this as a bad thing. I just jumped right into the conversations, and sharing of experiences that we all have from coming from a common "place" like being an ex or current JW.

I did not start a "welcome" thread for myself, either. I wanted to "show" myself by my posts, my thoughts, my opinions, and what I could contribute. As a whole, so far, I have pretty much gotten along with everyone here. I have started topics, I have posted in many threads, and I have read many things.

I do not feel any different from when I first joined, than to where I am here, months later. It seems to me, that most here are decent, sincere, and friendly people, and I am able to get along with most here. Differences of opinion, have not changed, from when I was "new", to now. I don't see it. No "love bombing", and fake welcoming, by anyone here, just instant friendships, and decent, intellectual discusions, both from the first day I joined till right now. Maybe, this is just my experience only, but it IS my experience, so far, here.

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Chatted with an old JW friend

by Driving Force in

df.

Dunedain

Yeah, that's interesting. I never heard about the porno stocks either. That would be insane, if that's true, and I am not saying you aren't telling the truth, DrivingForce, I am just talking out loud. I would love to see that. Not the pornos, I mean a link to some info about the wtbs "dealing" with it, lol.

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What Was The Silliest "Offense" That You Were Counseled For?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when i was a teenager, i was told by an elder that because i smiled a lot and was known for my good sense of humor, that i should come across as "more serious".

so before i was appointed a ms, while in my late teens, i transformed myself into a much more "serious" brother.. were you ever told that you needed to work on something that you knew was stoopid?.

Dunedain

@ - Longhairedgal - You know what it is too, is that in this Cult, the longer you are "IN", the more they feel they are entitled/deserved.

Being a spiritually "strong" JW means you are "sacrificing" by living a good WTS life. Its looked at like you have paid your "dues", by being in the borg for SO MANY years. If you are in the "truth" for 30 or 40 years, you must have "sacrificed" so many years of being moral, chaste, hours of field service, public talks, and following every whim of the GB and the congregations elders.

You MUST have paid your dues, if you have been a good JW for so long. So, you MUST be given extra "courtesy", and let some things be "swept under the carpet". Therefore the opposite is true, and when you are a younger person in the "truth", by simply being young, you could not have "sacrificed" as much as someone whos been "IN" for longer.

You are therefore treated with less respect, and more is expected. In other words, you are held to a, hypocritically, higher standard than someone else. Nope, you are not "equal" Christians in their eyes. Its all just another crock of BS that is very prevalent in this organization.

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My Bethel Experience Part 5

by new boy in

the machines conquer all!.

after our meeting with knorr and the heavies, some of the boys and me got a job changes.

i was sent to bindery 5th floor, building 3, bindery line 5..

Dunedain

Digging the stories dude, please keep em coming. I know of a story an old Bethel friend, Don, told me, of how some of the ole kitchen boys, would literally SWIM in the giant metal vats of cherry sauce that was being made for lunch the next day, lol.

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What Was The Silliest "Offense" That You Were Counseled For?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when i was a teenager, i was told by an elder that because i smiled a lot and was known for my good sense of humor, that i should come across as "more serious".

so before i was appointed a ms, while in my late teens, i transformed myself into a much more "serious" brother.. were you ever told that you needed to work on something that you knew was stoopid?.

Dunedain

I was "counseled" by the dip shit elders, when I was in my teens, for DEMONISM. You see, us "evil" teenagers, saw the movie "the good son", which had a young McCauley Culkin and Elijah wood, and it was about a "troubled" child. We also listened to rock, and metal music, and went to a concert or 2.

Taken as a whole, this meant we were "inviting" demons into our lives, and the "theme" of all we did was demonic. This was serious shit to these elders. I mean, local needs talks, and backroom meetings. Our parents were spoken to, notes were compared. It was absurd.

Well, you know what the eventual outcome was? Pretty much, we figured, if we were being "crucified" for trivial nonsense of a rated R movie, and some heavy music, we might as well do some REALLY bad shit. So we decided NOT to see rated R movies, and go to "demonic" concerts anymore.

Instead we took up TONS of fornication, and recreational drug use, lol. What these scumbag, sicko elders don't realize, is that when you BERATE, and BROW BEAT the sheep over NONSENSE, and especially when its teenage children, you are basically driving them right out the door. The way I looked at it, is if Jah hated me for R movies, and music, I might as well have him hate me for having some good old fashioned SEX too. Best decision I ever made, lol.

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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

by Crazyguy in

on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

Dunedain

While I was watching this video, I kept thinking 2 things in particular. The first was, I cannot believe these are a bunch of JW's at a possible "convention". The second thing, was that I was picturing myself at this "event", and whether if it was when I was in the "truth", or not, I would have been CRINGING in the back of this place, with my mouth open, and a WTF look on my face.

Whether I was "in", or "out", that would have been a very weird, uncomfortable, socially odd, awkward, and at times laugh out loud, "get together" to have been invited to.

I am still a bit dumbfounded, by what exactly I just saw. Context, would REALLY go a long way to "deciphering" what my eyes and ears have just witnessed. My how times have changed.

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The jw.org billions

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

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it is still strange, that an organization, lead by a group of old timers, is gaining billions at the moment, without giving any transparency and accountancy feedback, because these men "trust each other", and come away with that.. they got the property investment by the use of cohi associates, and deposit their liquid assets at the caymans.. it is clear: the real power behind the jw.org facade is securing his future.. don't get me wrong, i'm not insane, but more and more i got this strong gut feeling that some governmental organization has the real power.. gorby.

Dunedain

The huge chunk of money will poor in. They will "bounce" off ideas to each other, on what they will do with the money. They will disagree on it, and probably decide to let an "unbiased" neutral party make the decisions.

The sheer amount of money, WILL be too tempting, and enticing, to not corrupt the said parties. There will be "missing" moneys, and misappropriated spending.

Then there will be infighting amongst the GB, as they point fingers, and blame each others for the "issues". This will cause them to take back complete "control" of the money.

Now the GB, who are already starting to dis-trust each other, will REALLY be "eyeing" each other up. Like, who did what with the money, and who used what portion, and why did he spend that on that, and where did he get that from.

Many, many, many, rumors will start seeping out of Bethel. Many, many, many R&F, will be hearing the "murmuring", and questioning the "money".

This will cause the GB to become "proactive", and give their stupid, idiotic, "addresses" to the masses on JW.org. It WILL come off as insincere, and questionable. This will cause a further riff between the GB, themselves, and between the GB, and the masses.

This MONEY, will be the END of the ORG. It will make them become CORRUPT, and EVIL, and it WILL be absolute. The money "tables" will be flipped over, and trashed. The ORG, will "ROT" from the inside out, and top to the bottom.

Any huge amount of money, like they will be getting, WILL ABSOLUTELY be the cause, and ultimate destruction of this MAN MADE organization. The peoples in charges TRUE colors will come out, and by their "fruits" we will see them, and the tree will be cut down at its very roots.

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The Lion Awakes

by eric hendrickson in

my name is eric hendrickson.

i have been on a journey led by the holy spirit which has brought to this point that has allowed for me to open the seventh seal and understand god's master plan.

i am the lion from the lost tribe of judah who has come to the world and be the messiah king.

Dunedain

Hey, um Lion/Jesus dude, er sir, er i mean savior, can you PLEASE do me a favor and change the date from the 27th of January to the 31st? You see, thats my 7 year old, soon to be 8 years old, daughters birthday, and we have big plans to go away to an indoor water park in the Poconos Pennsylvania, and i would hate for that to be ruined by your whole, world end thingy.

So, yeah, can you just bump it a few days later, i already gave a $500 deposit on the room at the Hotel, thanks Lion/Jesus man.

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Today is Christmas, and guess what? Witnesses's were going house to house on my block, TODAY ON CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

by Dunedain in

i kid you not!!!!!

my family, and i, were on our way to my wife's brothers house today, which is the families christmas tradition.

we open presents in the morning, and at around 10:30, we head over to my brother in laws for breakfast/brunch, with all the family.. so, as we loaded some presents up in the car, and we all jumped, and drove away, at the end of my block, jehovahs witnesses!

Dunedain

I kid you not!!!!! My family, and i, were on our way to my wife's brothers house today, which is the families Christmas tradition. We open presents in the morning, and at around 10:30, we head over to my brother in laws for breakfast/brunch, with all the family.

So, as we loaded some presents up in the car, and we all jumped, and drove away, at the end of my block, JEHOVAHS WITNESSES! I could not believe my eyes. I literally yelled in the car, "do you believe these psychos are out on Christmas day, HARASSING people".

Yes my friends, today, on Christmas day, and in the RAIN, I saw 4 JW's knocking on peoples doors, bothering their neighbors at 10:30 in the morning. This was on my own block, it was ridiculous.

My wife, who was never a Witness, and only knows about them from me, asked "why are they bothering people on Christmas day"? To which, i answered, "Its because they think people will be home today, and they can try to catch them at home, and they could care less that it is a holiday, and special day for families to be together".

Her, and my 2 daughters, thought it was one of the most rude, and obnoxious things that someone could do on Christmas day. I could only agree.

Has anyone else seen any JW's preaching on Christmas day before? Or have any of you here, ever done this before, when you were active? Just curious.

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American accents, Bette Midler, Clinton, Rick Fearon, Strathclyde, Morningside

by slimboyfat in

i used to enjoy being able to distinguish different local accents, but for some reason i've got worse at it.

i was thinking about this today when i was listening to bette midler on the scottish radio.

i thought to myself i quite liked her accent and also that it reminded me of someone else.

Dunedain

Anywhere i go in America, and even outside the U.S., everyone can usually tell that I am from NYC/NJ area. I have, at least to the rest of the country, a distinct Brooklyn/Italian, NYC accent. Its a "localized" Staten Island/Brooklyn accent.

In fact, when i am in New Jersey, which is where i live now, New Jersey people can actually tell that i am from Staten Island NY. I sound different, and specific, to them, but to people from other parts of the country, I just sound like an Italian American from NYC.

Where i am from, Staten Island/Brooklyn, there is really no other group that sounds like us. We are distinct, NY accent, all by itself. It is, probably, do to an isolated population being "trapped" on a single "island", and one specific national group, Italian American.

In fact, even the Italians that came to NY, directly from Italy, and still speak mostly Italian, have their own Italian dialect. It is not spoken ANYWHERE else in the world, except Brooklyn/Staten Island. It is a mix of mostly Italian words, mixed with English "slang" words, and expressions, unique to NYC. One of my ex-girlfriends father spoke it. Italians coming directly from Italy, could NOT speak this form of Italian/English. It is just spoken by Italian speaking, "old timers", who have been in America/NYC, for years, but never fully learned English.

Now, back to my NYC/staten Island accent. To most New Yorkers, i actually have a very "mild" accent, but to the rest of the world, they know i am from NY when i speak.