WOW, and we wonder why there are so many pedophiles in this cult. This cult has always been full of sexually twisted, and repressed individuals. This kind of crap in print, is clearly proof of this.
Dunedain
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The most sick statement put in JW print
by Chook inwt 1973 p568.
"did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers that stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become maturbators later on?".
what sick fu... writing this article thought the the average person did this to keep kids quiet..
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Dunedain
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What do you think would have happened to you if...
by LevelThePlayingField inyou found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?
what do you think would have happened to you?
no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.
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Dunedain
Unfortunately, before the internet was around, most anti-JW info, was passed on thru reading, and word of mouth. If someone got hold of some really life changing information, they would usually discuss it with their close JW friends, and family.
The problem with this, is that it contributed, and gave credence to, the whole "apostate, causing division in the congregation" label. There were MANY who knew they risked a lot by even discussing this with others, yet they still took the chance, as they felt it was worth it. There were also many who were too scared to say a word.
Those that did expose the TTATT, usually had 1 of 2 things occur. They were a "lone wolf", that was DF'd for being contentious. They were labelled, and branded as an "apostate", the worst offence in JW land. The second outcome, was usually that a group of people came together, and realized that the Borg was wrong. They collectively were branded as a contentious group, and all parties usually left, or were DF'd.
It took a lot more courage, I feel, to expose the TTATT, back in the 70's and 80's. The information was not readily available, and it was much easier for the org, or elders, to discredit someone. The "apostate" was easily branded as a "crazy person", or whacko. The R&F easily went along with it, and gave it no more thought.
I specifically remember, when I was a kid in the mid 80's, a "group" in my congregation that were DF'd for "apostasy". They got caught up in the "witch hunts" at that time, which were very prevalent. Fred Franz was on an obsessive mission to "weed out", these apostates. It was on the heels of Ray Franz's book, and DF'ing. My old congregation when I was a kid, was 15 miles outside of Brooklyn bethel, and quite a few in my congregation had ties to the Franz's, and other "big wigs".
This led to a lot of people taking sides, and many who took Rays side, got the boot. Knowing what I know now, you learn to realize how RIGHT those "apostates" were, and the sacrifice and courage they had.
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Does God communicate with humans today?
by deegee inthere seems to be confusion within christianity regarding whether or not god communicates with humans today and if he does, how does he do it?.
- does god still insert thoughts into people's minds today or is that something which he only did in the past?.
- some maintain that god is no longer giving persons dreams/visions or speaking directly to them or sending angels to speak with them today but he will nevertheless insert thoughts into their minds to guide them.
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Dunedain
Of course God communicates with humans. He talks to these 7 old guys that live in NY. It is a little weird that God only talks to them, but it just has to be real. Nothing about that seems suspicious at all.
In fact, if it seems CRAZY, and PSYCHOTIC, from a human stand point, we shouldn't question it. We should just simply obey, even if it goes against our instincts, and reason, and appears to be the most absurd thing. I mean we have to do that too, cause those 7 old guys, said this, and God talks to them, and only them. Wow, we are SO LUCKY that we know the ONLY 7 humans that God talks to.
Lol, I was actually cracking up as I typed this.
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JW elder on the street I live in.
by Thisismein1972 inso just the other day i happened to look out my window to see the cobe and the elder who studied with me on the doors.
it got me thinking.. i remember one day, during my study that he said he loved me.
although he meant this as a "brother" it actually sent me into, what i can only describe as shock and alarm!
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Dunedain
I have always said, that the average JW, cares more for a total stranger they meet at the door, than a "weak" one within their own congregation.
When the "love" is fake, which most of the time it is, they don't care for a "weak" one in the congregation, because that "weak" one cant do/give them anything.
What the average JW wants, is accolades, studies, hours, and SUPERFICIAL nonsense, that JW'ism has taught is what is really important.
It is NOT about the person, or human, they are studying with. It is about the time they can count from that person. It is about the "praise" that comes with having a study. It is about being able to put a number 1, under the "study" row on a time card.
If you are a study, or basically a STRANGER, you are "love bombed", and it appears on the surface to be such a loving group of people. However, as you look just beneath the surface, you see something very different, and far uglier. The "candy coating" is covering a rancid, and deep "rot". A "cancer" of evil thrives, just under the skin. All dead, all rotten, all putrid. This "disease" spreads like a "plague", and permeates most in the congregations.
"The stench, and sins, have amassed high into the heavens". Beware those that come with a phony smile, and pat on the back. These ones do not bring "true love", only conditional, false, copies, of what they think love is.
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If anyone claimed that god speaks to them personally.....
by jambon1 inthey'd be viewed as completely mentally ill and laughed at.. so, how do the governing body get away with it?.
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Dunedain
This kind of nonsense, is from the top to the bottom, of the Org. The R&F believe the crazy, absurdity, that the old cronies are some how being "spoken" to by the Almighty creator of the universe.
This is accepted too, because it also benefits the men in the congregations, and in turn their wives and families. The elders in every congregation are under the assumption that they too have been put into positions, by God's "holy spirit".
Nobody "bucks" the system, because it benefits, most. It, as we know, gives the GB their "power" over everyone, when you have people convinced that Jehovah is speaking to/thru them. This "power" extends to the elders, CO's, ministerial servants, and all in "power". It is a "head trip" for all involved.
The elders wife, thinks she's special cause her husband is "ordained by God", as an Elder. Little Johnny thinks HIS Daddy is special, cause HIS daddys an elder. So, even those that aren't directly given this "power", still benefit from the ILLUSION that it exists.
This is partly, why this ILLUSION is accepted, and in most cases, cultivated, by the R&F. So, if its accepted by the ones at the "bottom", it is definitely accepted for, and by, the "gods" at the top, who rule from their iron thrones in NY.
This whole religion/cult, is based on ILLUSIONS. This whole cult, is based on INVISIBLE power. This has been from the beginning, with Christs invisible presence. It continues now to the GB, being directed by god, INVISIBLLY behind the scenes.
It is ALL, complete and utter, BS.
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Lots of weirdos among the jw's
by wannaexit ini found this little jem this morning .
it's a little dated but describes the self-proclaimed jesus of nazareth by the name of a.j miller.
he was raised in the jw religion and was also an elder and pioneer.
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Dunedain
Lol.
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How the Present G.B. Deceives its Followers/Readers....................
by The Searcher in............into believing that inferred "statements" are actual facts, while never stating anything!
w07 1/1 p. 28 pars.
11,12 "the first resurrection"—now under way!
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Dunedain
@ The Searcher - Really good info, you put up here. When you read it with a "clear", un indoctrinated mind, you realize how much BS they spew.
The sick thing about this, is that you just put up a small, little, snip it, of a paragraph or two. Literally EVERYTHING they have been printing for the past 100 years, has been double talk, like this. This is not some isolated case, or article,
The WTBS's CORE doctrines are, and have been, presented, and explained, in this way. Using "slick" words, and "maybes", never commiting to anything. It is pure, and utter rubbish. The GB should be ashamed of themselves. They KNOW they are NOT being divinely directed, yet they still deceive, and without any remorse.
They are snakes that speak with two tongues, and poison is all they spew. Their sins have amassed high up into the heavens, indeed.
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The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.
by SadElder inthe missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.
no words or score on the jw page yet.
can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.
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Dunedain
I thought god only had one son? Wasn't it that Jesus dude?
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Jehovah's Witnesses - a religion of displaced people?
by slimboyfat ini've had a theory for a long time that jws historically have appealed to people who have been displaced or find themselves in a new environment away from family and friends.
i also read an article recently that suggested that internal migration in italy was a big boost for jw growth.
more generally it has long been theorised that new religious movements are a phenomenon particularly associated with disruptive features of modernity, including the hyper-mobility of people in the modern age.
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Dunedain
This makes perfect sense. The WTBS bull crap will appeal to people that are being displaced, or going thru any turmoil.
When people are new to an area, or forced to go somewhere that they have no friends and family, they may be desperate to meet new people. They may be looking for friends, or a new social group. What easier than having someone show up at your door, and invite you to a "meeting". Once they go, they are love bombed, and coddled.
Then they have the one on one with their study conductor. The study conductor is always looked at as a "friend", and vice versa. This is just the amount of social contact they may need, to fulfil their loneliness, and lack of family close by.
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The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.
by SadElder inthe missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.
no words or score on the jw page yet.
can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.
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Dunedain
Man, those older, and current, songs from the songbook, are some of the worst music ever written, lol. As a kid in the hall, I used to hate singing those horrible songs.
My best friend in the hall at that time, used to pretend he was SOOO into the songs when he sung them. He would sing overly loud, and make these exaggerated facial expressions, like he was doing a cheesy music video.
It was so funny, and whenever any of us teenagers would catch a glimpse of it, you would get the laughs that you cant control.
One time the brother that was on the stage observed him making all the weird faces, and singing like he was really into the song, and he couldn't help laughing too. He probably could tell that he was making a mockery of the whole thing, lol.
Most of the other JW's, however, thought that my buddy was SOOO spiritual, as he sang soo loud, and made his cheesy expressions. That made it even more hysterical at the end of the day, lol. He would even make his older brother bust out laughing during the prayer, too. Good times, good times.