Posts by Dunedain

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I admit- I make my TMS talks apostate

by fr0808 in

hello (not a new user - had to reregister with the site revamp).

i look for every way to make my 5 minute talks devoid of wt flavor.

i try to be positive -talk about god's love for humanity.

Dunedain

I give my talks completely in the nude, and lubed up from head to toe. The sisters LOVE it, of course, although a few seem uncomfortable. I also usually draw the word "apostate" on my forehead, with a black sharpie marker. In fact the last talk i gave, i just kept saying the number 1914, over and over, for the whole 5 minutes. I got a "G" from the overseer, of course, he LOVED it.

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Mass Mailer to Congregations & Branches - Those who can't disassociate

by thedepressedsoul in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491270004/mass-disassociation-pact?size=10&page=15.

the topic above got me thinking.

everyone here can't send a disassociation letter due to family or other reasons.

Dunedain

@- Bill Convert, could you elaborate on your specific dealings with Merton Campbell? I am VERY curious, as i knew him, and his psycho wife Olga, many years ago. I would love to compare "notes", lol. Also, where can i look up the info on him that you mentioned? You say JWN, but i dont know what that is. I would really appreciate ANY info on Merton, and JWN, thanks in advance.

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The Borg has given up!!!!

by Crazyguy in

it's become obvious in the last few days that the borg is done, done giving one dime over to the membership of the organization.

they know or have been told that it's a waste of time to spend money trying to recruit new members so their cutting all out lays of money in this regard to the bone.

they will continue to spend money where they can make a prophet, keeping the ones in, not thinking and donating.

Dunedain

Yeah, survival of the FATTEST, not fittest. The fat pigs on top, are trying to survive, by gutting from the bottom up.

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Template to dump Special Pioneers

by avaddohn94 in

"downsizing" has reached special pioneers.. this is the template mexico is using to get rid of many of its special pioneers.

see how cold and unloving is the language they use.

a translation attempt is as follows:.

Dunedain

This is crazy, and talk about unlovingly, leaving your followers in the dust. I wonder how many are going to be affected by this, and if its going to be in all parts of the world too?

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Why don't you do anything?

by WireRider in

i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

Dunedain

One thing you have to remember to, is that there are many here that are at different stages of "waking up". Some are still "members", some are long removed from it, others are just starting to realize how they feel about things. Many are only mildly concerned, while others have been truly "hurt" by the organization. Then, you have the many levels of hurt, and with that the many levels of healing.

Many are new to sites like this, in general, and they are still attending meetings, just coming to grips with their own feelings. Others, like myself, are new to this site, and yet i have been "out"/DF'd from the borg, for over 20 years. Then others have been "aware" of the hypocrisy for years, and on these sites for years too.

So many are at different levels and stages, simply with their own feelings, and learning about information itself. Thats why a site like this, is a great stepping stone for many to start to wake up and continue to learn, and at all levels and stages.

Maybe, this will eventually blossom into a "movement" of sorts, but i feel this will be an organic, and natural progression in due time. Maybe, the time is now, maybe the climate is "ripe", or maybe it will still take years to progress. One person can change this, or one event could be a catalyst in this. If we say, "IT SHOULD BE" , it doesnt mean it will be, BUT, it also doesnt mean it cant or wont be, either.

Time will tell, whats meant to be will be. I for one would be happy to help others be released from the harm the WTS has caused, and causes. I would be willing to organize, or give time and resources to doing so, but again, only time can tell.

One thing i have learned, in my continued journey, is that we "all can make our own destiny". When i was WRONGLY kicked out of the WTS, i was told by the Elders that i wasnt worthy of forgiveness, but if i staid in the "world", where hypocrytically they were throwing me, i would be leading a miserable and unfullfilled life.

Well, i didnt let their harmfull words "rule" me, and fast forward 20 years later, and i am a self-employed milloinaire. I own rental properties, my own corporations, i make my own hours, and can work when i wish, on my own terms, and at 40 years old. I have plenty of disposable income, a beautiful home, a wonderful family, with 2 beautiful daughters. I have a happy marriage, a wife who respects and loves me, and i her. I have wonderful relationships and friendships, with people from all walks of life. I have surpassed all the Elders that threw me away as a 19 year old boy, financially, intelectually, and humanly. Now that i am a 40 year old man, i know that they are NOTHING.

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The Elders of the congregations make for the worst possible "shepards".

by Dunedain in

the main goal of a shepard, is to keep the flock as safe as possible.

the loss of just a single sheep, could be devastating to a flock, and a shepards financial well being.

every sheep is valuable, from a monetary stanpoint, and future strength of the flock.

Dunedain

@- Username- Its really not a description of a "type" of Elder. Its more describing the actions and climate of most elder bodies, and tactics, as a whole. The thousands of examples, right here on this site, are a testament to that.

It shows the hypocrasy of the WTS, and how they say the role of an Elder, is to shepard the flock, but a shepard would never use their tactics.

And in response to the Elders being there to protect against litigation, and being lawyers for the borg, most Elders i know, cant litigate themselves out of a fucking paper bag.

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The Elders of the congregations make for the worst possible "shepards".

by Dunedain in

the main goal of a shepard, is to keep the flock as safe as possible.

the loss of just a single sheep, could be devastating to a flock, and a shepards financial well being.

every sheep is valuable, from a monetary stanpoint, and future strength of the flock.

Dunedain

The main goal of a shepard, is to keep the flock as safe as possible. The loss of just a single sheep, could be devastating to a flock, and a shepards financial well being. Every sheep is valuable, from a monetary stanpoint, and future strength of the flock. A shepards diligence, is constant. A shepard is always aware of a straying sheep, or if there are predatory wolves threatening the flock. David was a young shepard boy, and his diligence was proven by his use of the rock, and sling. His constantly, slinging rocks at wolves, to keep his flock safe, honed his skills. His practice, allowed him to accurately sling a rock, from a great distance, right between Goliaths eyes. Modern day shepards still, in many countries, apply this method to keep their sheep safe.

Todays "Elders", compare themselves to shepards. They are the shepards of the "flock". In charge of the protection, and spiritual well being of the congregation, their "sheep". As a shepard, each sheep should be valuable and worthy of diligent protection, from the "wolves" of the world.

Could any of us imagine a shepard actually "throwing" a sheep to the wolves. Of course not, this would go against everything we know about how a shepards main role is to "protect" the flock.

What if a sheep within a shepards flock, started to wander slightly outside the "protected" area. Maybe for some food, or simply getting lost, or wandering to far, for whatever reason. Would the shepard, after observing some sheep straying, simply kick these sheep further into danger. Would that shepard, literally THROW THOSE SHEEP TO THE WOLVES, simply for making an "error" of judgement, or getting lost? Of course not, that would be STUPID, in fact it would go against EVERYTHING it means to be a shepard. If the shepard did this, eventually it could have no more sheep, less and less would maybe even trust in the protection of that shepard. The shepards would eventually lose their flock.

So why would the Elders, the shepards of the flock, disfellowship someone, and essentially cut them off from the safety of the flock. How could a sheep survive, if when they "strayed" ,for whatever reason, they were "thrown to the wolves". When you DF someone, by the teachings of the organization themselves, you would be cutting them off from the "safety" of the shepards. In so many words, you are playing with their very lives, judging them to wander with the wolves.

Todays, trigger happy, disfellowshipping, judgmental Elders, are the exact OPPOSITE, of a good shepard. They, truly, make the worst possible type of shepard, as they are possible killers of their own flock.

Remember, "to those more is given, more is expected". Words that may bite them in their asses in the future.

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Almost 60 years ago, The Watchtower made a prediction that has proven to be amazingly accurate.

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i haven't posted for quite awhile, just usually lurk, but thought surely someone would have noticed this on jw.org.

this was under the article about distractions.

i clicked on the article and below is the "accurate" prediction that the wt made back in 1958. this has to prove they have jehovah's backing, don't you think?

Dunedain

Is the OP being sarcastic here? I am honestly not understanding whats up with this post.

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Would Jesus have been disfellowshipped by the "Elders" of his day . . . . . .

by Dunedain in

i bet jesus would have been df'd by the "elders" in his day.

lets think about it, jesus hung out with "worldly" people.

his closest friends were known prostitutes, money collectors, men of "prominence" in the world of that day, non "beleivers" of the "faith" like samaritans, and many others that todays "elders" would have deemed "unworthy".. jesus spoke against the "organization" and "elders" of his day.

Dunedain

The point of my OP, was to show how Jesus, today would be disfellowshipped by the Elders. The disfellowshipping "standards" of todays Elders, would have DEFINATELLY disfellowshipped even Jesus himself. Some here got my point, and i think for others, i should have worded it differently, but either way, there seems to be no doubting that todays Elders would have DF'd Jesus.

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S*** JW Parents Say

by Dissonant15 in

my mom especially had some go-to phrases that to this day echo in my head and piss me off.

things like, .

"don't get mad at me for enforcing the rules, because jehovah made them, so if you don't like it, you're disrespecting him.

Dunedain

My parents, fortunately, were not like that, thank goodness, but i knew many that said very similar things to their JW kids.

What a "head trip" to put on little children. To not only think they were doing "bad" against their parents, but were also upsetting the "creator of the universe". The same God, that these same children, learned had put to death thousands of "unworthys", in mere seconds. Some of those "My book of bible stories" were scary.

Its really a form of mental child abuse.