I hope someone sends this letter to the "higher ups" at the Australian royal commision. Especially, if this is a tactic of the WTS to try and do some "shady" things in response to the recent "findings" from the commision. Like if they are going to "use" these "company" men to help them hide funds, or "navigate" whats coming.
Dunedain
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Elder's letter requesting details of solicitors, barristers and accountants
by jwfacts inthere was a letter sent to elders in australia on 18th november 2015 asking for details of publishers that are solicitors, barristers and accountants.
what would be their motive for these details?
the rest of the letter outlines 8 specific pieces of information to compile and send to bethel's legal department, and reiterates to collect the information only be "as you understand, without consulting the publisher.
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Australian Royal Commission Findings released
by Mephis inwill just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.
in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.
available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.
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As another Xmas approaches...
by snare&racket ini hope everyone here is well and staying strong x .
another year, another year with no armageddon.. i have noticed the jw pals and family become more frenzied of late, small things in the news wind them up and make them more hysterical than ever.
the events in paris were horrendous, but to a jw they mean the end is near...........why wasn't it near when chechnya was in the shit?
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Dunedain
Um, Christmas is pagan!!!!!
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Australian Royal Commission Findings released
by Mephis inwill just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.
in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.
available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.
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Dunedain
As the WTS LOVES to say, "the LAST days here", and they couldnt be more right, for their first time in over 140 years. Yes, my friends, behold, we ARE witnessing the last days, the last days of the WTS. The nail in the coffin is being hammered in, as we speak.
Behold, the "fruit" is ROTTEN. Its "roots", are old and withered. Its "branches" are cracked, and falling. Its "bark" is torn away, and the EVIL is exposed for all to see.
Beware WTS, your days are numbered. Your doctrines of lies, and your years of false prophesies, are ending. A great storm is upon you, and it will wash away your UNLOVING teachings. Your days of splitting up families, and "damning" fellow humans, are over.
The ROT is from the very top, to the furthest ends of its roots. Bugs are feasting on your "flesh", water does not nurture your soul. You are the breeder of decay, and mush, the very fibers of your "body", stinks of "death".
With one fell push, and one mighty swing of the axe, you will fall into a great, rotting, heap of decay. There will be a, mighty, thunderous report, as you hit, the cold, hard earth, and no one will mourn your loss. No, instead, the singing will be of your demise, and the poor, and down trodden, will rejoice in your end. The children will play, as their tormentor is gone, and there shall be tears of joy, as your hate has been crushed.
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The FINAL DAYS are here !!!
by Calebs Airplane inaccording to this jw video... now is the time to preach without fear!
now that the final days are here!.
the final days were not here previously (as they kept insisting for over 140 years)... but now they are!.
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The FINAL days for the WTS is HERE. Thats about the ONLY thing they got right. Their days are numbered, and they have no "sense" of who they are anymore.
Should we act a bit like scientology, should we act a bit like born agains, maybe take a bit from evangelicals? You can tell THIS is what they are trying to do, BECAUSE they do not know where they stand.
When false prophecies FAIL, and doctrines change with the wind, and their numbers are dwindling, and they cannot keep the young ones in, and the old ones are tired of the lies, and the new ones learn TTATT quickly, from just the touch of a computer button, you get DESPERATE.
They are DESPERATE, and a video like this one, is pure PROPOGANDA, to try a give JW's a "sense of comraderie". Trying to say they all belong together in the JW "club". No THANKS, we, and many others are starting to see, that it is NOT the JW "club", its the JW CULT, and we dont want it.
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The Exodus confirmed..
by Crazyguy infor those of you that don't research this stuff i will give a little back story.
we all know about the moses exodus, but history and archeology didn't seem to confirm this event.
the only exodus out of egypt ever recorded was that of a group of asiatic tribes that had taken over egypt for a bit over 100 years called the hyksos and the followers of the pharaoh akhenaten who perpetuated a monotheistic idea of worshiping only one deity the aten.
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Little Thought for Lurkers, oringinal sin?
by Diogenesister injust one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil".
so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?.
for a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed.
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Dunedain
The narrative, itself, kinda gives the impression that, at a minimum, Eve and probably Adam, werent around for that long, before Satan tempted them. Therefore, it always seemed to me, that although they were "perfect", they were mentally almost like children. They would have had hardly any life experience, and would have been like 2 elementary school aged "persons", walking around the garden.
They would have been "easy prey" for Satan. I dont know, of course, but its just my 2 cents, and it always seemed kinda unfair to me. Unfair, in the sense, that these 2 humans, whether perfect or not, were merely "children", in the big scheme of things. What chance would they have had against a spirit creature, who was cunning, and able to physically and mentally "deceive" them. Mind you, this was a being who was, supposedly, alive for billions of years, many times in the very presence of God, himself. A creature, of authority, even amongst creatures that are a much higher intelligence than a perfect mere human.
Yet God had no problem, with essentially letting this creature, deceive us, and horribly so, to the point of bringing our whole, intelligent species forever changed by death. Again, i ask, what chance did we have? Especially against the magical, shape shifting, powers, of a highly advanced, spirit creature, that has billions of years experience, and is hell bent on fucking with us.
We were a "newborn" of creation, barely around for any measure of time, in comparision to the universe. Yet God, is supposed to be a LOVING FATHER, well what kind of Father would even allow any predatory, intelligent being, to even come close enough to his latest, fragile, freshly created humans. Not only did he let the predator close enough to harm us, he LET IT HARM US, and to the point that NONE of us have had a chance. Again, what chance did we have.
Yet, to blow all our minds, if it DID NOT happen, then NONE of us here, on this message board, would have ever been born to even discuss this, in the first place. MIND BLOWN!!!!!!
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Lazy shepherds. Then they wonder "where are the sheep?"
by stillin ina guy who has come to the kh for years but never been baptized has a medical condition.
the elders became aware of the fact that the man did not refuse blood for his surgery.
the man consented to submit to the doctor's expertise.. there will be no calling on that man.
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Dunedain
" you will know my people, by the love they show amongst themselves "
I have found the elders to be some of the most, unloving, self righteous, judgemental, human beings in the world. By definition of what a shepard is supposed to be, elders fail miserably. True shepards, are vigilant, both day and night, to protect the flock from predators. If a sheep is lost, or straying to far from the flock, they are diligantly searched for, until found. The shepards in the middle east, are/were experts at slinging stones, hence the story of David and Goliath. They will use their slings and stones, to shoot stones, with incredible precision, at all predators who endanger the flock.
Elders will NEVER be good shepards, because, instead of protecting a sheep, when one is lost or straying, they literally "kick it out" of the flock. Through their tactics of Disfellowshipping, shunning, marking, judgeing, they show that they have NO love for any in the flock. In fact, most of the times, it is their very actions that cause the sheep to stray, stumble, and become lost.
Can you imagine a TRUE shepard, literally throwing their sheep to the wolves? Well, elders have been doing this for many, many years, and all under the , hypocrytical, guise of love. Their time is, soon to be at its end. Their sands are circling the hourglass, and their time is over. The numbers speak for themselves, as many are now waking up, and would rather be loved, than hated, and must leave the org to find that love.
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An elder bought my son a suit
by Clambake ini guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .
how rude of me.
i am thinking about returning to him.
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Dunedain
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Cracked under pressure
by breezy ina big problem i have always had when talking about anything related to jw teachings, is that i get aggravated and frustrated when logical black and white concepts/scriptures are not seen/interpreted in a logical way.
it really frustrates me having to hear '' oh no this does not apply here '' in every scripture that i bring to my parents attention.
starting from when i was 16 to about 20, my frustrations would lead to these anger fits.
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Dunedain
My friend, YOU sound like the mature, thinking, and loving Christian, in the situation. You can, usually, never go wrong with applying those qualities. Your getting frustrated, and "losing it", is NORMAL. Remember, YOU are the one who is being JUDGED by them, and you are the one who is not receiving true love from them.
Unfortunately, your parents are in a cult, that does not allow critical thinking, in fact, critical thinking on ones own, SCARES THEM. Your parents, are most likely, fully indoctrinated, and completely under the WTS brain washing control, and its ashame.
For what its worth, the toughest part for you, is probably because you live under their roof still. Everyones financial situation is different, and not all can, but i can guarantee that if you were able to move out, things between you guys would get better, hopefully.
I dealt with a similar situation with my father, when i was in my early 20's. He in many cases, and not just concerning JW/spiritual things, was very judgemental at certain times. He would sometimes, talk down to me, belittle me, and berate me. We would on ocassion, although most of the time i tried to be the "better" person, get into frustrating screaming matches. Eventually, i found that the best course for me, was to just move out, and get my own place. I went on to live my own life, under my own roof, and with my own rules. I went on to become successful in business, and have my own family, and children.
After moving out, and paving my own way, my father tremendously "softened" his attitude towards me. I cant speak for what for him the catalyst was. I dont know if it was guilt, or becoming, eventually, proud of me, or just realising the error in his ways, but we started having a much better, and more loving relationship with each other. Today we are closer than ever.
Sometimes, things just take time. Continue to think for yourself, like you are. Do for yourself, and continue doing well at work, and progressing from there. Sometimes parents, simply dont respect their childrens "wisdom", until they get older, and maybe realize, that their children WERE wise all along, and ahead of their years. I have a feeling, this may be whats going on in your case. Try to give things time, and continue to flourish, and do well for yourself, and things WILL fall into place.