Posts by Dunedain

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Letter # 2 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

just sent this letter off to the governing body.

i also sent a copy to the britain branch.

the governing body.

Dunedain

Hey, EVERY bit helps, good luck with this. Although, honestly, I feel the WTBS will be too cowardly to respond. Either way, its still worth it to send it, and if we ALL did this, it WOULD send a statement to them.

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"Where Is Jehovah In All of This?" My Wife, July of '93

by TMS in

the title above is a question asked by my wife seemingly hundreds of times in 1993, the year our only child was disfellowshipped.

the entire story exceeds the reasonable limits of this forum and i have to suppress the urge to write it.

instead, i will give little snippets, what a certain elder said at this or that point, how jehovah's organization treated us, how we handled our gradual awakening to, yes, "the truth about the truth.

Dunedain

@ TMS - I think many of us here, can relate to your story, and the unfairness, and hypocrisy that probably occurred at your sons JC.

I went thru it myself. I was DF'd by3 IDIOTS, that I thought were supposed to be "loving, concerned, shepards".

Well a true "shepherd" would NEVER allow a member of its flock to be thrown to the "wolves", so to speak. If Elders are disfellowshipping someone, they are literally and spiritually throwing them out of the congregation, and in turn, into the world.

How does this make ANY sense? Shepherd boys to this day, were and are, experts at slinging stones, as they would CONSTANTLY whip them at any predatory animals that encroached upon their flock.

Would any sane shepherd, instead throw one of its sheep to those same predatory animals, simply because that sheep started to stray a bit from the flock, or lose its way?

The way Elders act in their indiscriminate, and arbitrary ways of disfellowshipping, it makes them spiritual MURDERERS, not shepherds.

The Elders are the SS soldiers of the JW CULT. They are the henchmen of a man made, diseased "religion", that worships 7 human beings from Brooklyn. The elders are the most "fanatical" of this CULT, which in turn makes them the MOST mentally brain washed of the organization.

If you truly believe you are appointed by "holy spirit", and have the "power" to "judge" fellow human beings, literally believing you can read hearts, yet with no more credentials than a child playing MAKE BELEIVE, then I am sorry, but you are a sick, and twisted person, blinded by your own delusions of grandeur.

When I was DF'd, I was a 20 year old child. If I was the 40 year old man I am now, it would have gone a lot different, and with black eyes, and bloody noses for everyone.

But, you know what the best revenge is, it is living a good and productive life. Since the days of my DF ing, I have become a self made millionaire with a beautiful family, completely free of the CULT, and living a wonderful life.

My life has even become the "talk" of the elders that DF'd me. Since word has spread to many in my ex congregation of how prosperous and fulfilling my life has become, it literally prompted the elders to mention it on the platform. These elders thought my life was going to be a "worldly mess", and I would come crawling back to them, begging for mercy. Nope, quite the opposite, and the elders had to do "damage control", and mention that "although SOME who have been DF'd may appear to be doing well, they truly cant be, because Jah isn't blessing them".

Ha the jokes on them. They ARE stuck in the brain washing, men worshipping, life controlling CULT, and I am free of all man made bondage, never to be controlled again, and LOVING every minute of it.

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Beards - September 2016 Watchtower

by Listener in

the issue of whether beards are acceptable or not is addressed in the september 2016 watchtower - well sort of.

it is as clear as mud as to whether they are allowed in places like australia, usa and britain.. 17. what are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?17 what about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard?

the mosaic law required men to wear a beard.

Dunedain

@ Rebel8 - Brilliant observation! Its so true that once you "mad lib" anything you want into the text about beards, it really puts things in "perspective".

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Beards - September 2016 Watchtower

by Listener in

the issue of whether beards are acceptable or not is addressed in the september 2016 watchtower - well sort of.

it is as clear as mud as to whether they are allowed in places like australia, usa and britain.. 17. what are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?17 what about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard?

the mosaic law required men to wear a beard.

Dunedain

The scary thing about all this, is that I actually remember a few Elders wives who had beards.

Such hypocrites, with their double standards!

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Evidence for a Young Earth

by Perry in

for additional information:.

Dunedain

LOL

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Help needed: transgender people and other unclear topics

by TeaBiscuit in

first of all, i am not quite sure whether this is the right place to ask my questions.

if this is not really appropriate, please tell me in advance, but i really did not know who to turn to, so i thought why not ask the internet... now, i know many of you are apostates and i'm not really looking for "leave it all behind you" answers, but really for experiences, thoughts and ideas... as well as maybe some verses if you can think of any.. anyway, first things first.

since this is very anonymous and i'd like to keep it that way, i will not give you my name, but still, i think some background info might be helpful.

Dunedain

Teabiscuit - I bet you are enjoying this, harmless but important, discussions here on this forum. Well, we are enjoying having you here, I bet you have made some friends here too.

Well the sad thing about the JW,s at IF you get baptized you CAN NEVER come back to this forum again. If you do, and get caught, you could very well be disfellowshiped simply for coming into this forum. How crazy, and sick is that? The scary thing, is its true.

Another thing to help "put things in perspective" about this organization, is a small example of how the average JW "thinks". I was born in, and raised, and I can recall many years ago, having a discussion with an Elders son, and he was someone who was and still is, considered to be a very "spiritual" person, well in the discussion we were talking about homosexual persons, and his exact words about them were, and I quote, " they(homosexuals) will in no way be in, or make it into, the new system, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO DIE ".

That sick,and horrible comment that stuck with me from the age of 10, was the start of my "waking up" from the reality of what this religion is REALLY about.

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Died Due To Refusing Blood Transfusion

by rrb2016 in

well, last monday my mother, a jehovah's witness since her baptism in 1968 died last week because she would not accept a blood transfusion.

she was 76 and had lung and skin cancer.

i know that the cancer would have gotten her anyway, but she was bleeding internally, and was told that she needs a blood transfusion, as her blood count went all the way down to 3.2 (should be 12-14.

Dunedain

Wow, so sorry for this ordeal. I can only imagine how helpless it must feel, when literally watching someone you love, not accept medical treatment that could help them, all due to false doctrine and foolish interpretation of an archaic book.

This Cult is dangerous. This Cult cares NOTHING for its members. There is no love in the Cult, only hurt and pain.

Not to sound callous. especially since this loss is so fresh to you, but I almost wish you could SUE the WBT$. I wish you were able to sue the WTB$ for taking your poor mother away from you, too early. The WTB$'s own doctrine on blood has changed so dramatically over the past few years, that they ALMOST allow it, with all the blood "fractions" you CAN take, but they do not have the VIRTUE to come out and let members accept blood. They do this knowing full well that their own members LIVES could be saved.

This IS indeed criminal, and I wish they would soon be "taken to the bank", on their archaic, criminal, stance.

Truly sorry for your loss.

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The smug arrogance of "having the truth".

by stuckinarut2 in

has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.

perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.

Dunedain

Also, if these IDIOTS really, and smugly believe that the work they are doing in the ministry is saving, and or judging eternally the fellow humans who listen to THEM, or not. Then they might as well call themselves MURDERERS, not saviors.

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The smug arrogance of "having the truth".

by stuckinarut2 in

has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.

perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.

Dunedain

This is SOOO TRUE. I noticed this from a very early age, about the people in this religion/cult. Yes, its true that not all in the Borg are this way, but sadly, it is the most powerful, and influential ones that are usually this way.

The sad thing is, that this ARROGANCE, and the better than those "below" them attitude, is not just reserved for "worldly" people, but for members in their own congregations that are deemed "less spiritual" than others.

This false sense of superiority is what drives Elders to disfellowship the "unworthy". They know better, and they know more, and they in turn believe they can read a fellow humans HEART CONDITION.

Well, the real truth is, THEY KNOW NOTHING. They are arrogant in their own ignorance. They are "geniuses" in a CULT that is actually, blinding them. They have a sense of entitlement, but the fools do not even realize they are being blindly misdirected by fellow, arrogant, blinded, HUMAN BEINGS.

It would almost be poetically comical, if there were, unfortunately, not so many people being hurt by the arrogant idiotic humans of this CULT. Such ashame.

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Dunedain

You notice how most of the "demon stories", or "demonic encounters", mentioned are talking about DREAMS. That's because that is exactly what it is, a DREAM.

Yes, it feels real. Yes it WAS scary. Yes, you dreamt it more than once. Yes, it happened on a night you watched a rated R movie, or when you were wondering if demons were real. BUT yes, they are still JUST A DREAM.

In fact, when someone believes that demons ARE real, it subconsciously pre-disposes them to "see", or "feel" demons, especially in a dream.

I can GUARANTEE that if you do NOT believe in demons, you will NEVER have a demonic experience. I can also GUARANTEE, that if you believe in demons, you most likely WILL have a demonic experience.

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