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  I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

  by Perfection Seeker in

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  i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

  my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

  i had found this site shortly before she went.

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  nativenyr23

  I know. My family was the same way. Here's what I did.

  First thing i did....I distanced myself. First thing you need to do is tell your mom, "Mom, I understand what you're telling me; but right now, let's please not discuss anything religion-related. Just be my mom. I need some time." Tell her in a mature adult fashion (since parents have a hard time sometimes regarding us as adults with our own thoughts). It took my mother 4 years before she and i could have a relationship - but it also took me being a bitch and putting my foot down and telling her I'M DIFFERENT AND NO LONGER BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE. I had to finally tell her one day, "Mom, you raised me to believe the WT. I am now an adult and choose to disagree. I will respect that you believe it to be true and will not try to convince you otherwise. However, I wish you to afford me the same respect."

  Which was difficult for her to swallow. After all, my family had a "reputation". we were the model family in the congregation. Grandpa was in the Yearbook for his pioneering work in South America...yada yada yada..... We reached the point where she disowned me. it was difficult....and i too had to take antidepressants. Felt suicidal. Felt alone. Disowned by family and had newborn twins, and a 6 year old, and had just left my JW husband. All my uncles were elders.....aunts pioneers. I was being groomed to go to bethel and got married instead! So i know what you mean by the pressure. If they are inundating you with emails....store them in a folder for now and read them later. YOU have the power to read them when YOU want......and if you're not in the mood to deal with it....then delete them or save them for later when you DO feel ready. But your hubby has a point. You will need to be the one to put the brakes on and request that they respect your decision.

  then go get a hug from hubby. Email anytime you wanna chat. I know what you're going thru. I was alone for a long time. But the saying is really true....all this you're going thru will make you a stronger person.
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  WTS confirms head covering regulations

  by ozziepost in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as a service by jehovah's "loving" organisation, the wts has issued a list of situations where sisters are to wear a "head covering".

  2. conducting a bible study with baptized son.

  1. conducting a family study where husband is not present.

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  nativenyr23

  can't remember where it written....but doesn't it also say that a woman's hair qualifies as her "covering"?

  wouldn't that VOID OUT that need for a covering?

  Man, i wish i could remember the text.
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  I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!

  by Perfection Seeker in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.

  my mom was at the district convention last weekend.

  i had found this site shortly before she went.

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  nativenyr23

  Hi Perf:

  Hey....slow down. Remember....it took YEARS of indoctrination to get you where you are....and it cannot be undone in a few weeks. It'll take time. I know your enthusiasm. Been there...done that. For now, take all your new information and process it before passing it on.....think about it....and how you feel about it.....read...learn, study. Eventually, opportunities will open up and with subtlety you'll need to introduce them, to your mom or other family members. Remember, if you lay it out for them, they'll PUT UP A WALL. However, if you are subtle and get them to think for themselves....then you accomplish more. Don't doubt yourself. Its just that it's all too fresh still yet. I felt the same way at first (years ago) and am grateful to be out and free. But it's going to take time to feel that way. Their hold on us is powerful. And i truly believe it will never COMPLETELY go away. However, you will gain strength with time.
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  Been gone...but i'm back!

  by nativenyr23 in

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  hey all.

  been gone for a while.....have had a really bad month.

  separating from husband....got laid off from work.....computer at home broke down!!!!

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  nativenyr23

  Hey all. Been gone for a while.....have had a really bad month. Separating from husband....got laid off from work.....computer at home broke down!!!! ugh....borrowing a friends laptop so now i'm RECONNECTED! Missed a lot i see from reading the threads.....missed you guys. Glad to be back!
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  More Apostates Identified!

  by COMF in

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  thanks to an erstwhile cameraperson, we now know what a few of those evil apostates in the dallas area looked like as they gathered in the darkness for another demonic ritual at a local restaurant.

  from right to left: nativenyr23 (diana) and hubby, some apostate hiding from the light, and neil.

  ahah!

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  OMG....BILLYGOAT. ONE MORE THING WE HAVE IN COMMON.

  My parents didn't pay for my school EITHER (i guess it was still too corrupt back then) but the DID help my little brother pay for his! UGH....WAITING..I THINK THIS IS THE "PENIS" THING AGAIN, ISN'T IT!

  Hey MikeMusto.....we can party like the NYRs too.....take it from me! (remember, Billygoat and the panties?)heeheee......
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  More Apostates Identified!

  by COMF in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thanks to an erstwhile cameraperson, we now know what a few of those evil apostates in the dallas area looked like as they gathered in the darkness for another demonic ritual at a local restaurant.

  from right to left: nativenyr23 (diana) and hubby, some apostate hiding from the light, and neil.

  ahah!

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  HEY YOU GUYS!!!!!! HAD A GREAT TIME SATURDAY NIGHT!!!!!

  Those of you who didn't make it, WE HAD A BLAST! i smiled ALL THE WAY HOME from the restaurant (45 minute drive!) .....Hubbo almost killed us trying to get us home in time to see LENNOX KICK SOME TYSON A#$.

  Waiting.....Billygoat's right. You're a BEAUTIFUL lady. CAN YOU ADOPT ME?!?! You're like the aunt I had that i've lost to the troof. And hearing about your hubbo's mom having a pix of Russell hung on her wall.....THAT'S A TRIP!

  TEXSHAM....THANK YOU so much for coming up to us when we were at the Hostess's table .....I guess we had APOSTATE written all over us and you recognized the "look"? I felt a little weird asking for PAPA SMURF and not know what PAPA SMURFERS LOOKED LIKE!!! Like Waiting said......"WE ALL LOOK SO NORMAL!!!" HHAHAHAA....

  Andi....I say we wear our APOSTATE BADGES next time in true form like we did at the assemblies ok???? then after a few beers....we can play PIN THE TAG ON THE APOSTATE or something! LOL!!

  COMF & Debra......THANKS for taking the pixs!!!! I feel like such a celebrity on the net.

  OK REMEMBER......WERE GONNA DO THE HALLOWEEN PARTY AT MY HOUSE....TEXSHAM, YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF GETTING THE OLD OUIJA BOARD OFF OF EBAY! heeheehee......I'll try to get us a medium for the Seance.....

  Billygoat...You're in charge of getting our cute red Satan costumes for the party...ok?! Thanks for putting this dinner together.

  My only wish is that the Lewis/Tyson fight had been on another night......We'll need to do this again, and not wait til August to do it, ok guys? And we'll pick somewhere where they won't be so mean about getting us all together at a table.....THOSE BUTTHEADS! I'll start hunting down a place in midcities again....(maybe a little closer to MID CITIES...hahaha...) where we can make a NIGHT out of it! (no major boxing events to intervene!)

  Di
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  JW's just at my door

  by jaded in

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  thought i was home free.

  these people have seen hide nor hair of me in at least four years and now they decide to come looking for me???

  must be the co's visit because i didn't recognize the one "brother".

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  i know what'll make 'em NEVER come back.

  Start it out like it'll be an "experience" for them....
  Next time, ANSWER THE DOOR. Don't allow them to make you a prisoner in your own home.

  Say, "Oh, wow, what a coincidence! I was just praying this morning that I could be shown the true path.....to help me find the road that leads to eternal happiness. Then afterwards, I was having coffee with Satan in my living room, and he TOLD me you guys would be here today!"

  hahahahaha!!!! they'd probably drop their briefcases in their haste to get the HELL OUTTA THERE!
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  WT at it again...cross or stake?

  by dungbeetle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just found this on the watchtower website:.

  http://www.watchtower.org/library/rq/index.htm?article=article_11.htm.

  cross: jesus did not die on a cross.

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  nativenyr23

  "The cross was not used or worshiped by the early Christians. Therefore, do you think it would be right to use a cross in worship?—"

  ummm....i don't think they were worshiping at the time.....i believe he was being put to death, in the fashion that was common at the time, which happened to be called cruxifiction.

  And I don't feel people USE a cross to worship. They use it to remember what happened. BUT THEN AGAIN, that's just my interpretation.....(independent thinker, that i am).
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  Well Finally!

  by Sprocket in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just got this link passed on to me.

  unbelievable....i have been looking for some support and validation of my assumptions for a while.

  there certainly is a lot to contemplate here.. my story is too long to tell in the amount of time of have before my flight.

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  nativenyr23

  Welcome ((((Sprocket)))!

  Amazing how it feels like you lose 50 lbs off your shoulders once you're out. You'll find many supportive people here. It's bailed me out many times I've been at my lowest....just from reading that i'm not alone.

  Again, welcome.
  Di
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  making meetings more interesting

  by openminded in

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  2. friends

  do you keep falling asleep during meetings and assemblies?

  long and boring home studies?

  > here's a way to change all of that.. > > .

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  nativenyr23

  OMG ROTFLMAO - I HAVEN'T LAUGHED THIS HARD IN WEEKS!!!!!

  THANKS, Openminded, I ONLY WISH I HAD MORE PEOPLE I COULD EMAIL THIS TO!