What about the "wheel" that Ezekial saw. Sounds very much like a UFO. Could the "Nephelium" who found the daughters of earth to be attractive be visitors from outer space?
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Aliens/UFO's...Do You Believe In Them?
by Legolas in.
after reading another thread it got me thinking...how many here believe in aliens?
have you ever seen a ufo?
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Letting Life Flow
by joelbear ina couple of things.
you can't control your past, you can control your future.
but should you try to control it or should you just for the most part let it happen, perhaps giving it a light touch of influence.. perhaps influence it with your values, your talents, your goals.. breathe,
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James Thomas
Have you been reading Eckart Tolle again? We really do spend a lot of time trapped in our minds, don't we!
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Fulfillment of Prophecy
by daniel-p inok, i'm going to try to phrase this as articulately as i can - i'm not completely sure what i'm asking here, but if you have any thoughts on the matter please comment.
my question is this: do you ever feel like all that wt prophecy about the fall of babylon makes sense when you watch the news or read the newspaper?
sometimes a member of my family or a friend will rattle off on some bit of news they heard regarding the pope or a country's leader that seems to fall in line with the watchtower's take on revelation and i get all alarmed and alert - sort of a subconscious reaction.
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One of the great things about predicting the end of the world is that eventually you will be correct. The "signs of the end times" seem familiar because history keeps repeating itself. So far the WT is batting about 0 for 5 on accuracy. What does the bible say about false prophets?
We are one major asteroid strike from the end at any time. So what! This place is not our home and our "life" will not end when this earth ceases to be. In terms of specifics, I would rather trust Nostradamus or the ancient Mayans than the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society.
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see any good movies lately?
by lucifer in.
i know i did, i saw the family stone, it was funny and sad at the same time, i would go see it again, and chronicles of narnia, i saw it twice already and want to go again, what about you guys?
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Pride & Prejudice was o.k., but not as good as the A&E version. Narnia was excellent. I think even C.S. Lewis would have been pleased, not withstanding the fact that he resisted the concept of a movie while he was alive. I thought Second Hand Lions was the best film I have seen in a long while.
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Senseless death is getting to me
by AlmostAtheist ini'm finding that i'm less and less able to handle hearing about or even thinking about senseless death.
i read about some of the people tortured and killed as heretics during the inquisition and i was nearly in tears.
then i just read a news report about a pakistani man that killed his own daughters while his wife watched, in order to preserve his family's "honor".. theists can at least imagine these people in heaven, or sleeping awaiting a resurrection.
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I can feel your pain because we have all experienced it. James Thomas has hinted at the reason why we suffer so. Deep down we know the reason why. Our ego self is afraid to look at that truth and so tries to keep us distracted by focusing on all the "crap" going on in the world. The focus on "death" is especially effective in keeping us distracted. The truth of the matter, which Jesus went to a great deal of trouble to demonstrate, is that there is no reality to death. It is an illusion. All of this life we are living is an illusion. No one has died. Life is not in the body. We are dreaming a dream of separation from God. For many, the dream is more akin to a nightmare. Bodily death does not awaken us from the dream. It does take a conscious effort and a "little willingness" to awaken.
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Why would Jesus' first miracle be turning water into wine?
by truthseeker ini recently wondered why jesus would use his first miracle to make more brew - any ideas?.
i mean, i thought the first miracle would have been a healing or a resurrection or something.. i'm sure the wedding party didn't complain.. is it possible that this account was really the first miracle performed by jesus?
did jesus not perform miracles before his baptism?
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The author of John doubtless had his own agenda for relating the story of that "miracle", but was apparently not familiar with aramaic customs and culture. Middle Eastern weddings were extended celebrations which included a great deal of drinking. According to George Lamsa, it was the responsibility of the guests to provide the wine and not the host. The grooms best friend would go first and presumably provide the best wine. It would have been a social faux paux to provide the wine out of turn as that would have insulted the guest whose turn it was. When Mary said to Jesus, "they have no wine" she was, in effect, asking him "Is it not your turn?" His response was, "My hour is not come". In other words, it is not my turn. It was the custom that when the Rabbi's turn came, and Jesus was a Rabbi, he was to serve water and encourage everyone to sober up. The Urantia book indicates that the so called miracle was an accident; that Jesus did not intend to turn the water into wine, but was responding to his mother's embarrassment for the married couple. Another possibility is that the water tasted pretty good to a bunch of drunks. Having sampled a fair amount of middle eastern wine, I can assure you that I would rather drink water.
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Desolation of Jerusalem
by Alwayshere inusing the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.
add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.
the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.
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Here is what Harrell F. Beck relates in the History of Israel, Part I contained in the Interpreters One Volume Commentary of the Bible:
After recounting the decline of the Assyrian empire he writes:
"Predictably the Babylonians and Egyptian forces joined battle at Carchemish on the upper Euphrates in 605. Nebuchadrezzar defeated Neco and Bablyon became mistress of the Near East. Shortly thereafter Jehoiakim of Judah, confident that Egypt would support him, led a revolt against Nebuchadrezzar. The Babylonian king marched against Jerusalem and Jehoiakim died, perhaps killed by his own men. Nebuchadrezzar's forces captured Jehoiachin, son of Jehoiakim. He and a number of other Judean princes, numerous priests, military officers, and artisans, and significant element of the upper classes of Judean society were carried off to Babylon. Zedekiah, a 3rd son of Josiah, was made puppet king in Jerusalem.
In due course, Zedekiah also rebelled against Babylonian authority. Nebuchadrezzar retailiated with fury. The major fortresses of Judea were caputred and burned. For 30 months (588-586) the Babylonians besieged Jerusalem, and the city suffered tragically. When the Babylonians finally broke into the city, they leveled the walls and palaces and razed the temple to the ground. Zedekiah's sons were slain in front of him, and he himself was blinded and carried to Babylon in chains. The greater part of the population of Jerusalem was taken into exile with him. Thus the kindom of David came to a tragic end."
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Lost inspired scriptures
by greendawn indo you think that there were a lot more god inspired christian writings than the ones we have, but that they got lost at some stage?
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i believe all we have is but a tiny fraction of all such writings and also that the authors (apostles, their associates, prophets) of the writings that survived had no idea that their writings would be collected into a book ie the new testament.
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You raise an excellent point jgnat. Spirituality and inspiration did not end 2000 years ago. I have read a good many works of late that I consider to be inspired. The works of Eckart Tolle, Joel Goldsmith, Walter Starke, and A Course In Miracles would rate at the top of the list. The poems of James Dillet Freeman would also be up there.
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Myths of the 'scientific method' exposed
by Shining One inhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1222/p09s02-coop.html?s=u .
an excerpt from the article: .
"science employs the scientific method.
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The fact that many scientists were religious types didn't keep them from being placed under house arrest for many years (Gallileo) or their writings condemed (Copernicus) or their followers burned at the state for holding scientific views not compatible with the religious teaching of the day.
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Another great loss in my life..I hesitate to post this ,,
by LyinEyes in[edited: links have been removed from this post.].
i hestitated to write this on xmas day and i hate to get anyone down, but i hope you understand and maybe send prayers my way.. .
dear friends i don't know how to even put my pain in words, or my great loss.
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I am so sorry for your loss. I am sure that you do feel her presence as I very much believe in the afterlife. Be sure to pray for her and above all forgive her for the pain you are all currently experiencing. God does not hold us responsible for the things we do when we are "unconscious" as we all are most of the time. Rest assured that she is being looked after by those who love her.