You don't necessarily have to die to have "out of body" experiences. In the 1970s, the Menninger Clinic conducted experiments on a "Spiritual Adept" named Swami Rama. He was able to raise his heart rate from 70 to 300 through mental control. During that experiment, one of the researchers casually asked if he could stop his heart completely. He responded to the question by doing exactly that; causing much panic among the attending physicians. After a minute or so, he restarted his heart and was able to describe in detail what was taking place in the room next door and the Operating Room suite above on the next floor. Deepak Chopra, in his book Ageless Body, Timeless Mind, opines that death results when we lose awareness of our physical connection to our bodies.
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Your thoughts on out of Body experiences?
by qwerty ini posted this reply to anti-absolutism's threaddoes anyone truly die?.
this as probably been discused before, read on though please tell me your thoughts now that you are not bound by wts teachings (or maybe you still are)...................... .
glad you mention this, i was going to start a thread with a topic on near death or out of body experiences.. .
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Does anyone TRULY die?
by anti-absolutism ini have been reading the book, "the power of positive thinking" by norman vincent peale.
he is/was a christian minister, but his thoughts on god are somewhat different than what i thought a minister's thoughts would be.
in the second last chapter he expresses an interesting viewpoint.
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I have read Richard Bach's "Illusions". I was sitting in a Disciple of Christ sunday school one morning when the teacher read the preface from that book. It was as if someone reached out and grabbed me by the throat. I realized that something was reminding me of a profound truth I already knew but had momentarily forgotten. I went out and bought the book. It was a life altering experience for me. I've talked to others that have had similar experiences with that book. I've given away at leat a dozen copies of the book.
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Thus Sayeth the Holy Spirit: No Comment!!!
by Elsewhere inluke 12:11-12 .
but when they bring you in before public assemblies and government officials and authorities, do not become anxious about how or what you will speak in defense or what you will say; 12 for the holy spirit will teach you in that very hour the things you ought to say.
ever noticed that when the elders are put in front of a camera asking them about sexual abuse, they tend to say "no comment"?.
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You are misquoting scripture again. It should read, "the WT Legal Department will teach you at that very hour the things you are to say" . If you are going to keep on doing this, we will have to put you back on "bible study". lol
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Celebrating!!!
by Joyzabel incelebrating!
yep, tonight is the night we have purchased our freedom.
yep, the boys can only say (no incidents to point to, no 2 witnesses) that they feel we are <gasp> apostates!
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Congratulations and blessings on both of you! Beautiful beach picture. Reminds me of Fort Walton Beach where I used to live. I still have the sand in my shoes from that tour of duty. I hope to meet you someday. Megadude tells me that you both are wonderful folks.
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Does anyone TRULY die?
by anti-absolutism ini have been reading the book, "the power of positive thinking" by norman vincent peale.
he is/was a christian minister, but his thoughts on god are somewhat different than what i thought a minister's thoughts would be.
in the second last chapter he expresses an interesting viewpoint.
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Good post! Thanks for sharing. It is one of my favorite topics.
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I'm afraid Mr. Bush and Saddam couldn't be brought around since both have very powerful ego selves. Our ego (that part of us that believes we are separate from God) is very fearful of our waking up to the truth of who and what we are.
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I don't believe in death either and would be interested in your "take" on psychics such as John Edwards, John Anderson, and others who take the position that the "dead" are very conscious of what is going on here. There are times when I have felt the presence of my father and my grandmother. I have always suspected that Jesus' purpose in going through the crucifixtion and resurrection was to demonstrate that death is an illusion.
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Lizzy Borden
by Yerusalyim ini've solved the borden murder of 1892. there's a suprise witness, a girl scout.
her testimony?
the girl scout knocks on the door of the borden residence.
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God will punish you for that one Yeru! What have you been reading?
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Does anyone TRULY die?
by anti-absolutism ini have been reading the book, "the power of positive thinking" by norman vincent peale.
he is/was a christian minister, but his thoughts on god are somewhat different than what i thought a minister's thoughts would be.
in the second last chapter he expresses an interesting viewpoint.
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I have held that same belief for many years. It is a prevalent teaching in the New Thought community(Unity, Religious Science, Divine Science, & Christian Science). The belief is that God is all there is. That He/She is expressing infinitely through each and every one of us. God Himself is incomplete without me (and without you). The so called separation from God is merely an illusion and exists only in our human minds. Our flesh bodies are merely walls which we have constructed to shut out the awareness of God's presence and pretend that we are "doing our own thing". Like the Prodigal Son, we will all return home someday. The remembrance of the mistakes we have made will no doubt be painful. But we will all get the ring on our finger and the cloak around our shoulders and a welcome home feast, however unworthy we might feel. That story tells us everything we need to know about God and our relationship to Him.
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somebody
by somebody ingood day to all my fellow jw.comers,.
these are just some thoughts i had when reading the bible yesterday ( yes, i still do that daily, believe it or not.
revelation 3:12 (nwt).
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I would have some serious concerns about the accuracy of that quote. It has the ring of something that was added later.
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My father is dead
by cruzanheart intoday i found out that my dad committed suicide, probably on sunday sometime.
his body was found today and the plano police department called me.
i am numb and grieving, kind of relieved for a lot of reasons, and very very sad.
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Sorry to hear about your Dad. Suicides are especially hard to take. You must understand, however, that when people take their own lives, they are not in their right minds. Don't hold it against him. Try to remember the good times and let the rest go.
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Padi Certification
by Robdar ini went to the local dive shop today to pick up a used shortie wet suit.
forty bucks--can't beat the price.
while i was there, the owner told me that i could complete my training course that i started 4 years ago.
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The Cayman Islands is a great place to dive. I also like Pendleton Park off of Key Largo in Florida. I wanted to dive in Cozumel on the recommendation of many folks, but blew my eardrum and couldn't make the dive.