What Blondie said is true, however my comments on turning in time just when CO visits is often the reality of the situation. The elders almost never label someone as irregular until the CO sends them out on a time hunt while he is there. What usually happens is those publishers will all of a sudden come up with some time to report.. lol its laughable really. Such a stupid system they have for reporting our time (spirituality). Like I said, pathetic.
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Are irregular publishers included in the congregation average?
by hoser inany congregation secretary or former.
if a person does not report for the month and is zero hours is this zero included when the average is calculated?.
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Are irregular publishers included in the congregation average?
by hoser inany congregation secretary or former.
if a person does not report for the month and is zero hours is this zero included when the average is calculated?.
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Lying on a field service report is stupid. Do you think you're fooling Jehovah?
This is true. However the men in authority do look at the figures and your treatment by them is largely based on the amount of time you put in to work for your salvation. The whole concept of tracking individual time on "publishers record cards" is unscriptural.
I understand the whole "...need to be organized, encouraging to hear the progress from distant fields, etc.." but they can still do all that with the publishers handing in reports anonymously. The secretary hands in totals anyway not individual reports. Lets be honest, isn't the purpose of handing in reports really for the elders and CO's to look at and base your spirituality on.
How many times in elders meetings I have heard discussions about brothers and inevitably one of the elders says "what has his activity been like lately" How unchristian to base someone's value soley on participation in a man made organizations interpretation of how Jesus' ministry should be carried out.
...how pathetic really.
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Are irregular publishers included in the congregation average?
by hoser inany congregation secretary or former.
if a person does not report for the month and is zero hours is this zero included when the average is calculated?.
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You are not irregular until the CO comes and goes and you did not hand in a report. Those figures go on his report. i.e. how many are irregular, inactive, how many became inactive or irregular since last visit. So in otherwords you do not need to hand in your report until the week of his visit to be counted as regular.
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more abuse in today's watchtower study
by solomon intoday's study picks on the most vulnerable among us.
the mentally ill. .
the watchtower apparently hasn't learned that depression and mental illness are that a medical condition.
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The infuriating thing, for me, anyway, is that they do know the difference and yet choose to write the way they do anyway
So true Sir82......stupid mofo's.
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more abuse in today's watchtower study
by solomon intoday's study picks on the most vulnerable among us.
the mentally ill. .
the watchtower apparently hasn't learned that depression and mental illness are that a medical condition.
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I think that this issue depends on how we are all interpreting the word "depression" Just saying oh I lost my job, I am depressed doesnt mean that you are clinically depressed. It almost would have been better if the medical profession used a different term than just "depression" to mean clinical, chemical based depression. How many of us say that we are depressed sometimes, but we all dont pop pills for it.
Anyway getting back to the thread comments I believe the WT is actually referring to the non-clinical depression in this article. Even the CO's admit now in our elders meetings that some may need medication to control the various "depressions" that plaugue many today. America seems to be rife with clincally depressed people, not just JWs either.
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What was the worst thing an "elder" ever did to you ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inthe worst thing an "elder" ever did to me was in 2008. i was in one congregation, but i wanted to return to my home congregation because i've been reproved there twice ( once private and the last one public ).
when i came into this congregation in 2007 i thought i was going to move up the food chain ( this congregation was full of older people, so i thought i would move up faster ).
but i got into some trouble in the congregation.
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Take me in the coat room before the Thursday night meeting with another elder and ask me if there was anything in the past or present that would disqualify me and prevent my appointment as an elder from being announced that night.
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Is there any specific scripture(s) in the bible that say you will not survive armageddon if you are an inactive publisher?
by solomon injust wondering?.
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There aren't scriptures stating most of what the Jehovah's Witness religion says to do. Its all a farce
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KM School last weekend
by XBEHERE insince sir82 pretty much covered the highlights of the drivel i only have this to say about it besides total waste of time:.
the 2 witness rule is very much still in effect for pedophilia.
they barely covered that 10/1/12 letter to all bodies, basically the co read it and even skipped some parts.
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As for ramping up Df'ings...I guess you could make that case. That video of the committee case was sort of implying that elders are being swayed by sentiment instead of WT directives. Sentiment, how dare they! They must be thinking that more people need to be df'd then are actually getting the axe. And yes that intro and concl. way, way over exaggerated. Kind of silly, and unnecessary too.
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KM School last weekend
by XBEHERE insince sir82 pretty much covered the highlights of the drivel i only have this to say about it besides total waste of time:.
the 2 witness rule is very much still in effect for pedophilia.
they barely covered that 10/1/12 letter to all bodies, basically the co read it and even skipped some parts.
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KM School last weekend
by XBEHERE insince sir82 pretty much covered the highlights of the drivel i only have this to say about it besides total waste of time:.
the 2 witness rule is very much still in effect for pedophilia.
they barely covered that 10/1/12 letter to all bodies, basically the co read it and even skipped some parts.
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No. They pretty much reviewed chapters in the KS book and 10/1/12 and 4/10/12 Letters to BOE's with us, showed us a couple videos then sent us on our way all "ready to judge" with insight in righteousness.