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  Powerfully heart-wrenching experience by FORMER BETHLITE

  by Black Man in

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  just wanting to post an experience by a former bethelite.

  the first part was just published with the other two coming overt the next couple of weeks.

  click the link.

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  XBEHERE

  Scott I would do that but honestly I was just a worker bee, no influence whatsover. I do remember one of the guys from the photog dept. getting married to a very young, hot bride. She was such a flirt. She ended up getting pregnant and he confided in a friend of mine that she admitted to him it was becasue she wanted kids and hated it at bethel. I saw so many while there that just look unhappy, especially the wives. Sad to waste young life there I am so glad I only put in the time that I did.

  Black I was there from 1989-1992 so perhaps we did overlap a little.
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  Powerfully heart-wrenching experience by FORMER BETHLITE

  by Black Man in

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  just wanting to post an experience by a former bethelite.

  the first part was just published with the other two coming overt the next couple of weeks.

  click the link.

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  XBEHERE

  Awesome experience. Please post the rest as soon as you can. When I was at Brooklyn Bethel I remember the adulteries, and thefts taking place. I too ignored it like Mariuca did. There are so many miserable married couples there.
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  Have You Given Up on JW Friends or Family Ever Seeing The Light And Getting Out?

  by minimus in

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  i'm always hopeful but mostly doubtful that they will get out of her..

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  XBEHERE

  No. I am slowly.........slowly working on my wife. She is begining to acknowlege that there are some issues. I have hope
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  JW family made contact....

  by LouBelle in

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  .....after 8 years of us being disfellowshipped.

  the made contact through my aunt who is still 'in' - as in she has faded but is not disfellowshipped and will pop to a meeting now and again - she does this for my grans' sake.. the contact was from my aunt and uncle (he's an elder) these were the 2 witnesses used against me in my judicial case.

  they contacted my aunt and said to forward the message onto us.

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  XBEHERE

  Love in the WT is fake, forced. Not the kind that Jesus showed or stated would be the indentifying mark of True christians today.
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  Bethelites - What Were Some of Your Favorite Meals At Bethel?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  i ate at brooklyn bethel twice, 23 years apart.

  both times it was fried pork chops, mash potatoes and apple sauce.. just lois.

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  XBEHERE

  The blueberries were spectactular. I also liked the creamed beef and their fried chicken.
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  Elders and former elders: Judicial cases how often?

  by A question in

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  how many judicial cases did you serve on, in how many years as an elder?

  feel free to talk about the cases too..

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  XBEHERE

  Total in my career probably around 20-25. For many different reasons: porneia, stealing, apostasy (yes the irony doesnt escape me) I always try to avoid them if at all possible. As Blondie stated it does depend on the cong. and all the mentioned factors. In my first cong as elder there were very few cases. Went to one with a core bunch of tween/teens and bam! porneia, abhorrent pornography, even an orgy of teeneagers inexplicably allowed to have a sleep over at someones home.. lol Honestly lots of normal teenager things.
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  Here comes Baruch again

  by stillin in

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  somehow this weeks book study, which covered some more about baruch, managed to turn it into a slam against education or trying to improve yourself very much.

  ok, he didn't "seek great things for himself.

  " but to twist that into the diatribe against college education, under the pretense of a bible study, is simply appallingly irresponsible!

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  XBEHERE

  I always thought that "the great things" that Baruch was "seeking" were material things, wealth and prominence....over 40 years a jw, never remember it being applied to education. Must be a new direction.

  It is still material things and prominence but now they are implying that those things go hand in hand with higher education. As if a window washer can not be prideful, self absorbed or materialistic.
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  Here comes Baruch again

  by stillin in

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  somehow this weeks book study, which covered some more about baruch, managed to turn it into a slam against education or trying to improve yourself very much.

  ok, he didn't "seek great things for himself.

  " but to twist that into the diatribe against college education, under the pretense of a bible study, is simply appallingly irresponsible!

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  XBEHERE

  I have been saying it for months now...this Jeremiah book is nothing more than an attempt for the Org to push its policies under the guise of "bible principles" makes me sick really.
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  Were You Ever Interrogated By The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  some elders enjoy giving the business to the lowly flock thru intimidation.

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  some love to ask you to enter with them into the "backroom".. of course, there were many that never had run-ins with the shepherds because they were under the radar.. did you ever get interrogatted by the elders and if so, how did it go??

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  XBEHERE

  Yes, the first time I was deleted as an elder. If I had TTATT I would not have accepted re-appointment a year later. Basically I was told that I wasnt visible enough in the ministry and I was missing meetings. They couldn't crack open the bible and explain with any logic how or why that would disqualify me but I understood the underlying agenda. I had an argument the previous CO who was good friends with the then Presiding Overseer and a couple of other elders. It was an argument that I won because I called the branch and he was wrong. Long story short, he took revenge on me and got it. Shit happens, I moved on.

  Elders suck!
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  Maybeso

  by MaybeSo in

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  im very sad, upset and disappointed all at the same time.

  why couldnt i just stay away from this dam forum and live my life and blindly dedicated it to the borg.

  now i know ttatt, i cant ignore all the facts and all the stories of the great people in this forum.

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  XBEHERE

  " Do I just ignore everything and live a happy blinded life? "

  This is the route I chose and I dont reccomend it. But I do understand why myself and others do it. From experience, it isnt healthy and it eventually will catch up to you. I have started to tell my wife things here and there i.e. Jeremiah books sucks which she agrees with. Also we agree in the fact that "wordly" people are nice and accetable associates. However she is still after me to study with the kids! So brainwashing runs deep. I eventually will just let it all out and it may happen sooner than later. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.