Posts by XBEHERE

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calling all elders - what goes on at the week long elders school?

by not bitter in

my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.

dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.

what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.

XBEHERE

Went last year. To be completely honest it wasnt a total waste of time. I know that sounds wierd but the main instructor was good at applying bible principles and he really wasn't doing a Watchtower comercial the whole time. Maybe he's a closet apostate...who knows.

That being said, the other instructor, was a total company man. Boring, do more, preach more, follow the slave, and then take care of your family. Oh and if you dont take care of your family we will delete you and you will be a leper in your congregation.

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Was the TM School really any good ?

by Phizzy in

many of us were members of the theocratic ministry school for many years.

some say it helped them with public speaking, and maybe it did for some.. but, when you look back at the quality of student it turned out, was it really any good ?.

most elders are crap public speakers, most r&f bros are crap at reading aloud, most jw's are crap at selling their religion at the door, most jw's have scant real knowledge of the bible.. there are reasons for this, quite often the tms overeer hasn't a clue how to teach a person to progress.

XBEHERE

no

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Here's what I learned at our DC.....

by sir82 in

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when people say "armageddon may come, but not in my lifetime", that is a "satanic inspired error".. how do you overcome it?.

why, looking a it that way, adam's rebellion was less than a week ago!

jesus was here on earth just the day before yesterday!

XBEHERE

I learned how to sleep with my eyelids still open. Very difficult but can be done if you completely tune out and look straight ahead.

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Do JW's even read the Watchtower?

by zound in

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i know i rarely if ever read the magazines that i used to promote and place with householders (besides the watchtower study).

hypocritical no?.

XBEHERE

Most speed read and underline the 6th grade reading level, spoon fed answers for the study edition either on Saturday evening or Sunday morning depending on what time their meeting is.

Even when I believed I did not read all of the articles.

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

XBEHERE

BackSeat

Seniority was based on total years spent in some type of full time service. Pioneering, Bethel Service, Missionary, Circuit Work, etc.

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

XBEHERE

Brooklyn 89-92

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Former Long Time Elder - Judicial Committees

by James Jackson in

when i first was appointed as an elder, i could not wait to be on a judicial committee.

it semed like most hearings invovled middle age men and women cheating on their mates because either they had married early or felt that were being neglected by their mate.

most times i felt i need to take a long hot shower after a hearing.. the toughest part was seeing these sweet young children grow up in "the truth", and now you are about to judge their future based on their repentance.

XBEHERE

Regretfully, I too, have been a party to Df'ings. I am sick to my stomach that I was ever involved with that unscriptural procedure.

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Jesus never started his ministry untill he was 30 years of age ! What should that tell us ?

by smiddy in

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while this always bothered me ,i still wanted my 2 boys to be baptised as soon as practical so they would survive the big a or else get a resurrection into the new system of things.thats how indoctrinated i was.both my boys were baptised in their early to mid teens.neither have ever been disfellowshipped or disassociated themselves ,however both have nothing to do with the religion today.

(thankfully ) .

how many family lives have been ruined because children/minors have been baptised at a young age and in the majority of cases have committed trivial offences against watchtower policys/rules .sometimes with tragic consequences .. teenagers have a difficult enough time as it is dealing with changes to their bodies and coping with new emotions as they transform from boys to manhood and from girls to womanhood .. here in australia you cant get a car license and drive on your own till your 18 yrs old ,vote at elections , or drink alcohol at a pub.and many people will argue,that is too young to start doing those things as they are not mature enough .. yet the wtb&ts / jehovahs witnesses put life and death matters in the hands of minors / children ,as regards the use of blood and blood products ,fractions of blood ,what is currently acceptible ,and what is not.. an adult witness would find it hard to keep up with what is current and what is not current in the ever changing policy regarding the blood issue ,let alone a minor/teen who is expected to make a life or death decision at a critical time.. a teenager /minor does not have that capacity to make such an enormous decision about life or death ,when the wtb&ts acknowledge they often fail to make right decisions in trivial matters ,hence the disfellowshipping of thousands for trivial rules imposed by the governing body ,man made rules at that .no birthday celebrations,no smoking,no associating with a disfellowshipped baptised witness,no questioning what the governing body has said,accepting a blood transfusion,formerly a disfellowshipping offence , now stated ,you disassociated yourself from jehovahs witness teachings so you disfellowshipped yourself .

XBEHERE

He also was not baptized until 30 and yet the WT tries to guilt us into baptizing our children in their tweens and teens. Meanwhile they still call baptism "the most important decision you will ever make.." Ok so I should let me 13 yr old get married then? Fcuking idiots!

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What on earth happened to the magazines?

by slimboyfat in

for the first time in years today.

to say that it took me five minutes to read the whole thing would be to flatter the rag.

it doesn't even seem to contain actual articles any more, just headings and bullet points and pictures.

XBEHERE

They are changing with the times, the younger generation will barely pickup a book or magazine to read these days. In the U.S more and more people have tablets, Kindle's, Nooks, etc. Granted they have taken it a bit far but I think that's largely a financial issue (saving for Warwick, etc.).

The bullet point thing is also an attempt to simplify as people will especially not waste time reading a religious periodical. Times are changing, so much for Jehovah never changes.

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Imagine if the JW's tried to copy Apple and open a 'JW store'......OMFG.......they did...

by snare&racket in

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http://theworldnewsmedia.org/jw.org+new+witnessing+shop+opens+in+france.

video.... http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4&desktop_uri=%2fwatch%3fv%3drvcvnhohno4.

religion or corporation..... you decide......

XBEHERE

Well Apple is similar to a cult.

Make a screen .5 inches bigger and called it a different name and the iSheep must have it because its a 5 not a fcuking 4S. Need to keep pace with Steve Jobs celestial iChariot...

btw Love my iPad so not a hater just saying