Posts by XBEHERE

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Do You Care About "The Royal Baby"?

by minimus in

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i don't get it.

(and i don't care about america's "royalty" either)..

Who still goes to meetings and out in field service?

by SloppyJoe in

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just curious as to who on here still regularly attends meetings and goes out in service?

as i sit at the district convention i can't help but think who else out in the crowd is just like me.

doesn't believe what they hear, but are still here..

I do both and am currently serving as an elder. I pretty much go to meetings and just look at the speaker, pretend that I am listening. I comment once during each meeting so as not to cause suspicion. I also take every chance I get not to go, fake illnesses or working late but that has to be limited.

As for ministry I also try to "fake it" as much as possible. Fortunately my wife is on board because she doesn't like the ministry so we tend to work as a family, do a couple calls, go to Dunkin Donuts and go home.

The most difficult part for me is to sit in elders meetings... OMG they are so power hungry, egotistical, and controlling. I have to drift off to a different place so I dont freak out and blurt something "apostate" out.

I have not chosen an easy path, I am slowly working on my wife for an exit in the hopefully near future.

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Former Longtime Elder - Reflections

by James Jackson in

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the meetings are getting more boring to me.

some of the elders during their parts just talk and talk and talk about uninteresting things.

boring, boring.

XBEHERE

Weird in many of the congregations in my area the elder bodies are pretty young. Many ranging in age from late 20's-80's. I see not too many MS's compared to back in the 80's and 90's. I guess it all depends on where you live.

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The Pecking Order Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by minimus in

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they don't realize it but there is a pecking order.

you especially see it when the circuit overseer comes by.

XBEHERE

Its so obvious especially as you said when the CO comes to town. So stupid

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Something the WT will never admit regarding jw.org

by Richard_I in

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we all know how much the jws higher education and how they look down on those getting a post-secondary diploma or degree.

but think about all the work needed to make jw.org:.

web programmersdatabase programmersnetwork programmersgeneral it (administration, maintenance, etc.

XBEHERE

Yeah IT people do not generally need degrees. But look at the team of lawyers the WT has, also the Doctors at Bethel, the Engineers, etc. etc. Truly hypocritical to say the least.

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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does

by booker-t in

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for the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.

where do people get nonsense like this?

do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?

XBEHERE

I do not like to discuss politics but I agree, tired of people putting the man down. The fact is that they all fk up, his race has absolutely nothing to do with it. Everyone had something to complain about each president. Really who gives a shit, its not like the president really controls the government anyway.

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I just want a divorce!

by bornfree123 in

hi there, this is my first post, but i've been buzzing around this site for years.. i got married at 18, hubby was 20, i was a regular pioneer and we were talking about serving in bethel.

fast forward - i left in 2004 after a 5 year battle with my conscience, family and friends who kept insisting that i was just "weak and needed to have another bible study".

however hubby and i stayed together although it was kinda on the understanding that we would just not talk about it.

XBEHERE

Although he might get some temporary heat from the elders, he is allowed to divorce simply based on what has happened. Then he would not be "scripturally" free according to their rules
If one of the marriage mates did not commit porniea with someone else or an animal (yes that is in the elders manual) then no matter what, there is no scriptural divorce period. Meaning neither one can be appointed to any "special" privleges (hurts the men more than the woman). Also if either decide to start dating someone else they will get spoken to. If they persist after several warnings then a "marking" talk will be given. If the person decides to get married again then they are marked as bad associates but no judicial action would be taken and the other mate is only then scripturally free.
The odd thing about this whole, convoluted, bull shit of a situation is that if these 2 ex marriage mates who are labled as still "scripturally" married decide to have sex again with each other then they are before a committee for fornication. Now thats quite the head scratcher, never could rationalize that one.

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Higher Education

by XBEHERE in

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we have co visit this week.

its official, after months and months of college bashing including but not limited to the wonderful jeremiah book the co's are hitting it hard with their talks now.

same as the jeremiah book, higher education sucks and worldy people suck.

XBEHERE

The Watchtower Society has always (since the 1920's) been negative about higher education. Now the 'policy' is that one can earn a two-year/Associates degree, certification or specialized short-term training without negative repercussions. Persons who promote higher education in the congregation risk being removed as elders, ministerial servants and pioneers (March 6, 2012 letter to all bodies of elders in the United States).
I read that letter and yes you are correct. However I disagree that its ALWAYS been the policy. Others can recall too that back in the mid 90's they seemed to lighten up on it. It was in the Watchtower no clue which article sorry. My point is that they really have tightened back down on it. Perhaps our area os becoming known for it and thats why our CO hit hard on it.

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More wisdom from the " Jeremiah " book!!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

"they will certainly feed you" chapter 12 :.

12) unlike those false shepherds, christian overseers study and imitate jesus' example........ but if you serve as an elder, are you firmly convinced that your instruction can be beneficial and true, reflecting knowledge and insight, only when you base it on god's word and direction from the faithful and discreet slave class?

if you sense that you are not as involved in a personal study program as you were previously, what will you do so that you can continue to be different from the false shepherds of jeremiah's day?.........in his day, jeremiah saw the need for the spiritual healing of his people.

XBEHERE

Pure boolsheet.

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During Your IN Years If You Had Anointed At Your Hall, What Were They Like?

by LoisLane looking for Superman in

the scoop of humanity at one khall, the anointed ones" were a mixed group.. one bro, h. had been in for eons.

he was df for adultery, back in the day when they would announce your sin openly from the platform to everyone.

he just kept on coming and partaking until he was reinstated.

XBEHERE

Disclaimer: I am not promoting evengelical christianity, Jesus as god, etc. etc. I am merely submitting an opinion

I think that those JWs who profess to be annointed are in the same category mentally and emotionally as born again christians...along with the JW baggage. What I mean is that they act weird because they believe certain things about themselves (which I believe the bible clearly teaches) but can't justify the belief that they are the only ones deserving of going to heaven aside from what the Watchtower teaches. This causes them to become highly, well, weird for lack of a better term.

Also because other JWs put them up on a pedstal the feel that they must put on a front that they are vastly informed of bible truth and doctrine. I can go on and on but I think you get the idea. The ones I have known throughout my life have been odd ducks.