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  How Do Elders Feel About Their Position In The 21st Century?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  when i was appointed as an elder, i was very proud of my accomplishment in the theocracy and actually believed that jehovah god appointed me and that i would prove to be an excellent society man and maybe even make it to circuit overseer!.

  how silly, huh??.

  fast forward to 35 years later, and i wonder how many appointed men truly love their positions and duties.. any appointed men want to give their opinion on that?

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  XBEHERE

  There will always be elders around such as yourself 35 years ago but I have noticed, at least in my area, that the respect for elders has declined. When I was growing up in the 70's and 80's they were "the elders" respected, feared in some cases. Now so many publishers are flippant, unresponsive, and apathetic and I don't blame them. We were supposed to be in paradise by the mid 90's after all then they changed the generation doctrine what 3 times since then??

  For me I remain as such because its just easier to keep up appearances and the wife likes that I have "status" lol... personally I could give a rats ass.
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  How to become an MS in no time

  by Batman89 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the method i used lol.

  1) be a good servant and make sure your wt and pub are always underlined every meeting(great for appearances).

  2) comment every meeting(a "sure way" to know someones "spiritually qualified").

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  XBEHERE

  Good list, except now you have to add go out in service with the CO when he comes around and make insightful comments on the condition of the congregation. Make sure you mention that you really wish there was more you could do to assist the busy elders. This of course is more applicable after September 2014 which is when they are in charge of appointments and deletions.
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  divorce rate-education level

  by doneandout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the paper a while ago, there was a study done on divorce rate compaired to education level.

  basicly they found higher education went with lower divorces, while lower education went with higher diverces.. and guess where jw fall into?.

  also, more lasting harm caused by the jw's lack of education besides lost jobs, even if one does leave..

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  XBEHERE

  So it is a generalization to state that education is a major factor. There is so much to consider. Besides people who do tests often have different results on another study. Different parts of the world have different results for the same studies.

  I.e. eggs, bad... eggs ok....eggs bad....eggs are one of the most digestable proteins....eggs have a lot of cholesterol.... wait the cholestrol isnt abosrbed by the body as much as we thought.. LOL please.. People get grant money to conduct these studies.

  Bottom line is that human beings are complex creatures and every person is different. My one grandfather smoked from the age of 15 until he died of lung cancer at age 87. My other grandfather smoked for about 15-20 yrs but stopped and died of lung cancer at age 62. So who the hell knows!
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  All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.

  they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.

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  XBEHERE

  That letter is just promoting a "peer pressure" situation to get the elders and ms to aux pio. You don't HAVE to do it.... but you really should. This letter gives publishers license to point fingers and critisize the appointed men who do not do it.
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  divorce rate-education level

  by doneandout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the paper a while ago, there was a study done on divorce rate compaired to education level.

  basicly they found higher education went with lower divorces, while lower education went with higher diverces.. and guess where jw fall into?.

  also, more lasting harm caused by the jw's lack of education besides lost jobs, even if one does leave..

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  XBEHERE

  There are so many studies on so many differing opinions its really difficult to know which ones are accurate or not. I'd love to see the source for this.
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  BOE - PDF - CONFIDENTIAL 2014-04-22 Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  boe - confidential.

  instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

  no virus ;-).

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  XBEHERE

  if you've ever sat in a CO meeting where prior to the body unanimously recommended a brother, only for the CO to visit and sway the opinions of enough brothers to have a change of heart, you'll know what I mean

  Well put and precisely the reason that this change matters little at the moment but in the long run we will see. It will also, as mentioned, allow absolute idiots who have money and a taste for some good polyester flavored ass to be appointed now. This is a stupid move that could bite them in the ass.
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  7 Things Remarkably Happy People Do Often

  by Oubliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i came across this article today and really appreciated it's positive message; and so i wanted to share a few choice excerpts that i thought were particularly relevant for this group:.

  7 things remarkably happy people do often1.

  make good friends - make real friends.

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  XBEHERE

  Phaedra welcome! Unsual name you have, I like it.
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  Any Suggestions on what to say if elders ask why you stopped going in FS?

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was curious what might be some good things to say if i am questioned by the elduurs about my decline in fs.

  anything too honest may get me a jc (although that would be for the best in the end..) the co visit is this week so they may be getting more agressive than usual.

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  XBEHERE

  lie. submit 1-2 hrs of "informal witnessing" they really don't care anyway if its CO visit as they just want to have a low number of irregular and inactive pubs to report to middle management.
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  Where were you? / How old were you?... during the Ray Franz witch trial?

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was 13yo and largely clueless to what was going on.

  i think i remember hearing something about an apostate being weeded out of bethel but really couldn't have cared less.

  i didn't start getting zealous until a couple of years later.. .

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  XBEHERE

  I was 15 and living at home with Elder Dad and Pioneer mom. I do recall mom discussing the Time magazine blurb about it with Dad and wondering what was up.
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  Donation Changes-Elders Meeting

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so we had our elders meeting to discuss the 3/29 lboe...it was was many of you expressed.

  below are some of the quotes from the elders:.

  "we just need to keep the focus on jehovah's work, remind the friends of this".

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  XBEHERE

  You are right about that...I used to be one of those tow the liner's. The feeling that I got during that meeting was that our BOE would do as told, period. This is the scary part of this cult, nobody openly questions anything the CCJW says and remains in for very long. Your family will be told that you are satanic and to shun you. Ex- Elders are treated worse than publishers in many cases since they "should know better.."