Welcome Scott. There is a lot of anger and resentment still with many, myself included, however don't let it bother you or stop you. There are many, many nice people here who are understanding and are good listeners. Enjoy the forum.
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Hello- new here
by Kikura inbeen lurking for a while on here and thought i'd jump in.
a great deal of many thoughtful posts on here but have to say am a bit turned off with the 'rabid apostate' ones!.
my history- was raised in a divided household, mum converted to jw when pregnant with me back in 1970, dad was never jw but was supportive of taking us to meetings, assemblies etc.
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what is a CO
by bigmac ini'm out of touch with dub-speak.. .
in another thread--the writer refers to the co--is this circuit overseer--congregation overseer--or what ?.
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Circus Overseer. Que the music "da da da dada dada da da dada"
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How Do Elders Feel About Their Position In The 21st Century?
by minimus inwhen i was appointed as an elder, i was very proud of my accomplishment in the theocracy and actually believed that jehovah god appointed me and that i would prove to be an excellent society man and maybe even make it to circuit overseer!.
how silly, huh??.
fast forward to 35 years later, and i wonder how many appointed men truly love their positions and duties.. any appointed men want to give their opinion on that?
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There will always be elders around such as yourself 35 years ago but I have noticed, at least in my area, that the respect for elders has declined. When I was growing up in the 70's and 80's they were "the elders" respected, feared in some cases. Now so many publishers are flippant, unresponsive, and apathetic and I don't blame them. We were supposed to be in paradise by the mid 90's after all then they changed the generation doctrine what 3 times since then??
For me I remain as such because its just easier to keep up appearances and the wife likes that I have "status" lol... personally I could give a rats ass.
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How to become an MS in no time
by Batman89 inthe method i used lol.
1) be a good servant and make sure your wt and pub are always underlined every meeting(great for appearances).
2) comment every meeting(a "sure way" to know someones "spiritually qualified").
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Good list, except now you have to add go out in service with the CO when he comes around and make insightful comments on the condition of the congregation. Make sure you mention that you really wish there was more you could do to assist the busy elders. This of course is more applicable after September 2014 which is when they are in charge of appointments and deletions.
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divorce rate-education level
by doneandout inin the paper a while ago, there was a study done on divorce rate compaired to education level.
basicly they found higher education went with lower divorces, while lower education went with higher diverces.. and guess where jw fall into?.
also, more lasting harm caused by the jw's lack of education besides lost jobs, even if one does leave..
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So it is a generalization to state that education is a major factor. There is so much to consider. Besides people who do tests often have different results on another study. Different parts of the world have different results for the same studies.
I.e. eggs, bad... eggs ok....eggs bad....eggs are one of the most digestable proteins....eggs have a lot of cholesterol.... wait the cholestrol isnt abosrbed by the body as much as we thought.. LOL please.. People get grant money to conduct these studies.
Bottom line is that human beings are complex creatures and every person is different. My one grandfather smoked from the age of 15 until he died of lung cancer at age 87. My other grandfather smoked for about 15-20 yrs but stopped and died of lung cancer at age 62. So who the hell knows!
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All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!
by stuckinarut2 inyes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.
they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.
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That letter is just promoting a "peer pressure" situation to get the elders and ms to aux pio. You don't HAVE to do it.... but you really should. This letter gives publishers license to point fingers and critisize the appointed men who do not do it.
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divorce rate-education level
by doneandout inin the paper a while ago, there was a study done on divorce rate compaired to education level.
basicly they found higher education went with lower divorces, while lower education went with higher diverces.. and guess where jw fall into?.
also, more lasting harm caused by the jw's lack of education besides lost jobs, even if one does leave..
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There are so many studies on so many differing opinions its really difficult to know which ones are accurate or not. I'd love to see the source for this.
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BOE - PDF - CONFIDENTIAL 2014-04-22 Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by WatchTower87 inboe - confidential.
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
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if you've ever sat in a CO meeting where prior to the body unanimously recommended a brother, only for the CO to visit and sway the opinions of enough brothers to have a change of heart, you'll know what I mean
Well put and precisely the reason that this change matters little at the moment but in the long run we will see. It will also, as mentioned, allow absolute idiots who have money and a taste for some good polyester flavored ass to be appointed now. This is a stupid move that could bite them in the ass.
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7 Things Remarkably Happy People Do Often
by Oubliette ini came across this article today and really appreciated it's positive message; and so i wanted to share a few choice excerpts that i thought were particularly relevant for this group:.
7 things remarkably happy people do often1.
make good friends - make real friends.
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Phaedra welcome! Unsual name you have, I like it.
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Any Suggestions on what to say if elders ask why you stopped going in FS?
by BU2B ini was curious what might be some good things to say if i am questioned by the elduurs about my decline in fs.
anything too honest may get me a jc (although that would be for the best in the end..) the co visit is this week so they may be getting more agressive than usual.
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lie. submit 1-2 hrs of "informal witnessing" they really don't care anyway if its CO visit as they just want to have a low number of irregular and inactive pubs to report to middle management.