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  Your "Things That Make You Go Hmmm?" List

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  i'll wager that the number is close to 100 percent.

  what number?

  the number of jws who have lists--lists of things that make them go hmmm or even wha'???

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  XBEHERE

  Many things over the years. Most recently:

  1. 2 Witness Rule doesn't work for certain CRIMES. Pedophiles seldom have witnesses, its a crime report it.

  2. Elders appointed by holy spirit...Really?

  3. Bashing Higher Education yet they send a letter out to all elders asking if there any with special skills that can work for free on their Warwick project.

  4. Blood fractions... lol What does abstain mean? I like the ham sandwich illustration in Ray Franz's book.

  5. "This generation.." wtf?? Please make up your mind and please have it make sense.
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  Poll--How Many Believe In God, Do Not Believe or Are Not Sure Of His Existence?

  by minimus in

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  i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.

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  Not sure but leaning slightly more towards his existence. I am however 100% convinced that the WT (FD&S) has it completely wrong.
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  I Don't Think The Witnesses Really Care If You Can Explain Doctrine As Long As You Accept Them!

  by minimus in

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  gone are the days of getting into discussions about their beliefs.

  doing major research to prove a position or watchtower doctrine is a thing of the past.

  all they want from you is to surrender and accept everything they say as undeniable truth.. do you agree?.

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  XBEHERE

  agree and this is part of what keeps people in. If you are finacially well off, popular in the congregation... what need do you have to question doctrine or to leave even if it doesn't make sense.
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  Question for current and former elders: did you feel qualified to give counsel for depression?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  do you feel the counseling demands placed on elders are fair and scriptural?.

  i live in an economically depressed industial city.

  my dad is an elder in a lower income black congregation.

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  XBEHERE

  Not at all.
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  What's The Basic Vibe of Jehovah's Witnesses These Days?

  by minimus in

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  do you think they are zealous?.

  happy, joyful?.

  pessimistic, depressed?.

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  XBEHERE

  Indifferent. Like theredeemer said some are excited about all these bs campaigns, some are like "ehhh" Personally I don't see the same pre 1995 urgency anymore.

  I think the first "This generation" change really knocked the wind out of many JWs sails. Its beginning to show now as these who experienced that change first hand are less excited about their own children now growing up with the constant carrot dangling mentality and education bashing. I really think that the 1995 generation change was a game changer, now there is no urgency and it shows.
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  New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions

  by XBEHERE in

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  from the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.

  nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.

  even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.

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  XBEHERE

  This just opens it up even more for ass kissers to be appointed to positions since now all they or their relatives have to do is give a green handshake or suck some CO ass. The fact that would would still tout that these men are "scripturally" qualified is ludicrous.
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  New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions

  by XBEHERE in

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  from the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.

  nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.

  even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.

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  Thanks. I am still paranoid about posting letters here.
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  New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
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  from the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.

  nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.

  even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.

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  XBEHERE

  From the wording of the letter it seems that the CO has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions. Nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the CO to the branch office. Even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept. cc'ing the CO and his body.

  The Service Dept. basically turns that right back to an "assigned experienced CO" to go over the details with the involved CO and they decide if his appeal has merit or not. There is a lot more boring details but these to me are the key parts.

  What do you think? Is this for legal reasons, the WTS is distancing themselves more from local BOE's and CO's?

  wow..
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  Hypocrisy of a paragraph in the "Draw Close to Jehovah" book!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  "draw close to jehovah" book.

  page 106, para 20:.

  20 does serving whole-souled mean that we must all spend the same amount of time and energy in the ministry?

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  XBEHERE

  I agree and this is even more the case for August. I am getting so much pressure from other appointed men to "set an example" in August. This JW.Org tract is of vital importance. Ourselves and our families must set the proper example to the flock, the society wants August to be a "historical month"
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  FROM FEET TO FINGERS: THE WATCHTOWER EVOLVES INTO JW.ORG

  by steve2 in

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  with the official letter from the gb to all bodies of elders, a stylized jw.org banner can now be appended to kingdom hall signage.. what an auspicious year this will turn out to be for the organization!!.

  among other outcomes, the "link" with the old, baggage-ridden "watchtower bible & tract society" recedes into the background.

  furthermore, now you don't pretend to need feet trudging door-to-door - your worker is done at the press of a few directed fingers.

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  XBEHERE

  The thing is, how many people always, and only rely on an official site of a company or organization for information about that entity? I know that I don't, I google everything especially if its an investment in time or money. Do they really think that people will only go to jw.org for information about JWs.

  They are essentially inviting the public to "google" JW's. This is going to be a backfire I think.

  lol....please