just thought i'd share.
a friend of mine moved away about 10 years ago.
he was a ms at the time.
rather be,
I mentally checked out 10 yrs ago when Barbara Anderson and Bill Bowen exposed how the WTS shielded disgusting pedophiles. That was the brick that broke down the wall for me. I still go because my entire family is in.. elders, CO's, Bethelites, etc. In addition my wife's entire family is in.. elders, ms's, special pioneers, etc.
I am not saying its easy, it isnt ,but for now until I can leave with her I stay in.
just thought i'd share.
a friend of mine moved away about 10 years ago.
he was a ms at the time.
I agree that there are many like him. I am one of them, still going to meetings, service, etc. while understanding the fallacy of the whole JW system. I wouldn't wish this method on anyone as it is extremely psychologically damaging. Encourage him to come on here and realize that he is not crazy, the wt org is.
i've has conversations with certain elder friends but i never gave them a total pummeling, at least i haven't yet.. what about you?.
As an elder that would not go over so well I think. One of my best friends, an elder, would totally flip out and send other elders or CO/DO with torches and a stake after me.
why did you become a jehovah's witness ?.
initially upon entering the religion what were the positive things you experienced ?.
how did that particular way of thinking both benefit and harm you ?.
When I came out of the birth canal my brainwashing began, dad was alreaday a company servant.
i have been trying to wrap my head around the talk that introduced the slave as our mother?
the brothers at bethel are worried that we are not treating our spiritual mother with respect.
jehovah is our father, the faithful slave (the governing body) is our spiritual mammy.
I went to the DC a few weeks ago and I totally missed that point. Maybe I should have put Plaugue Inc. down on my iPhone and payed attention a little better.
in the early 80s the watchtower society began to forbid any police officer from serving as a ministerial servant, elder or even viewed as "exemplary".
at the time i was told it was because of firearms, possible bloodguilt, and being men of violence- "smiters".. as a young person it just didn't make sense to me.
i knew and liked a few peace officers who served as elders.
Interesting post.. I always wondered this myself. Police Officers are exemplary in their desire to protect and uphold the law but you are correct about not using them in the congregation. Why is that? I need to do some research and find out why. It certainly cant be the gun thing because I know elders and ms's who own rifles and crossbows for hunting.
just curious if anyone here is or knows of individuals who accepted "the truth" just so they could marry a jw.
how did it turn out?
i know of one case where a jw sister started dating a wordly man.
Just curious if anyone here is or knows of individuals who accepted "the truth" just so they could marry a JW. How did it turn out? Are they still in now?
I know of one case where a JW sister started dating a wordly man. Her family of course insisted that she either stop or he start studying. Eventually he studied, got baptized, they got married, he became an MS, she became a pioneer, he then became an elder....and all of a sudden she leaves him for another "worldly" person.
To this day this former elder has not spoken to another JW, he essentially became "worldly" again and she and her new hub are back in the truth... TRUTH, lol makes me feel dirty to even say it sarcastically.
we have seen hundreds of examples of where the watchtower uses the word "evidently" to make their doctrinal point.
(page 9, para 6).
(page 19 para 5).
Good points made. The average JW will never see it as a ploy to backup what they say with no evidence though. So sad...
i had my co visit not too long ago and in our conversation on technology (i'm an apple guy) he stated that within the last year the branch supplied all traveling overseers with free ipads to use.
he then proceeded to tell me he doesnt personally bring his to the meetings as not to stumble anyone (or maybe because we might see his high score on temple run).
i was pretty surprised by this and began wondering... are jw donations towards the world wide work going to ipads for do's and co's to use in their spare time?
At the risk of sounding like an apologist, iPads are pretty useful to have at meetings and to read the PDF and ePub literature from jw.org. Additionally all correspondence to elders/Traveling overseers from the branch is in PDF format, they very seldom send letters anymore and iPads are pefect for reading those also.
last saturday i was home with my wife,having a leisurely brekky pottering around in the kitchen ,then i noticed her standing still pondering ,what`s up i asked , wife :i thought i heard someone knocking ,i looked out the window to see two middle aged guys exciting my front drive.why didn`t you tell me they were their,i didn`t hear them.
i would have engaged them in conversation , but my wife doesn`t think i ought to,just let it go ,is her motto.. but my point is : i`m not deaf , and i didn`t hear them at the door , we were both in the front room ,my wife only thought she heard someone at the door only to be proved right observing them leaving i was in my pj`s and dressing gown so was not going to pursue them.
we have been living here nearly 5 years now and i can honestly say they have never been on our doorstep more than 4 times if that , i personally have only encountered them 3 times at the most.
Well I can't speak for all "active" witlesses but in my case I cant stand field service and miss every opportunity that I can. When I do go out I do "calls". Overhearing what others are saying in my cong. I'd say many feel the same way that I do, even the pioneers. There are pioneers in my hall that only have like 4 or 5 rvs and no studies. When I was pioneering 20 yrs ago that would've been grounds for deletion. There is no sense of urgency for many anymore.
