Posts by XBEHERE

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What really is the overall objective?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

one cant help but notice all of the dramatic changes thathave been happening to the organization.

this is not the religion that i grewup in.

im not saying that the religion that i grew up in was better, justdifferent.

XBEHERE

It really is quite fascinating when you look at the WT Org's history, particularly when the majority of the GB has had a turnover. Russell, then he died and when JFR took over there was a schism and the ones that continued to believe in Russell's teachings were labeled "apostates" while the one's that embraced JFR's changes were renamed Jehovah's Witnesses.

JFR hired a new prophet named Fred Franz to be his main writer and doctrine maker...this continued after JFR's death with Knorr also using Freddie. Under Freddie and Knorr they expanded the GB with hand picked individuals who for the most part followed Freddie's lead.

Finally after Knorr and then Freddie died this hand picked GB continued for a while holding the mantle but also making some changes then they eventually had to fill in replacements with their hand picked friends. Then they started dying off so these hand picked friends made more changes, and so and so forth until here we are today.

It seemed to me that many of the changes started with Ted Jaracz's death and continued until some of Ted's closest, hand picked GB members were out numbered then more changes happened. Might be a coincidence but seems like with the death of Guy Pierce in particular changes have be in overdrive.

It all remains to be seen what will happen when Losch, Splane, Herd die off and what their replacements will then do.

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JW TV is the reason for the hysteria in the KH

by campaign of hate in

jw
friends

if you, like me, have noticed the sudden increase in hysteria in the khs right now, i put it down to that jw tv site.

its's far more extensive than i thought it was, i thought it was just 1, 1 hour program a month.

there's a s*** load of videos on that site.. and the real problem, from just watching a clip from each video, is that these guys are clearly "mentally unstable".

XBEHERE

There is only a small percentage of JW's that really can be considered "hardcore" these days. While that Jim Jones pic above is interesting I seriously doubt that any command like that would ever be issued let alone followed. This is a cult but not an extreme cult in that sense, the few wack-jobs aside.

The only real issue I have with the JW Broadcasting, being that I am still an active JW, is that this is just one more thing to guilt trip people about on the congregation level. Now, before and after the meetings and during F/S this is how the conversations go: "hey good point in the latest broadcast right?" "wow did you catch that interview or that morning worship video.. so hard hitting" In other words this is turning into a way to identify "spiritually weak" individuals in the congregation. It is clever.

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I hope Armageddon doesn't come before the new Star Wars movie comes out

by Zoos in

ever had this thought about an upcoming movie?.

and then i would feel guilty for putting my entertainment desires ahead of god's kingdom.. .

shameless!.

XBEHERE

lol.. I really used to think about that when I was growing up since we had to wait like 3 years in between them. Now I feel the same way but instead its "I hope I don't die before the sequel trilogy is completed" screw Armageddon.

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Watchtower buys apt complex in Fishkill, NY

by lostinthought in

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friends

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2014/12/22/jehovahs-witnesses-buy-fishkill-rivercrest-apartments/20788311/.

jehovah's witnesses now owns a major apartment complex in the town of fishkill.. tenants say they've been told their leases will not be renewed.. the sale of the 250-unit rivercrest luxury apartments closed dec. 3, the deed on file at the dutchess county clerk's office shows.

while sale price is not stated, the transfer tax indicates a transaction for $57 million.. rivercrest is a modern development west of route 9d just north of beacon and was a project of avr realty, which also developed other housing and commercial spaces in that area as well as projects in eight states.. the sale deed is between rivercrest development llc, based in yonkers, and watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. as the buyer.

XBEHERE

Yeah, throw the worldly scum out onto the street! Bird food is wall they are, bird food!

This would likely be no different if it were another company purchasing this complex. Its business, granted you'd think so-called christians would be a little more kind but it is what it is.

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Governing Body at Bethel and their daily routine

by Tenacious in

i never had the privilege to serve at bethel .. therefore, community help is greatly appreciated friends.. do the gb members have their own living quarters separate from the average jw?.

does their "busy" schedule permit field service, if yes, how many hours a month?.

how long are their weekly wednesday meetings?.

XBEHERE

Whoa take it easy on the NYC bashing people, its a great city.

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Governing Body at Bethel and their daily routine

by Tenacious in

i never had the privilege to serve at bethel .. therefore, community help is greatly appreciated friends.. do the gb members have their own living quarters separate from the average jw?.

does their "busy" schedule permit field service, if yes, how many hours a month?.

how long are their weekly wednesday meetings?.

XBEHERE

When I served in Brooklyn I saw Jaracz, Shroeder and their wives out doing street work, not together, a few times in downtown Brooklyn.

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1 Corinthians 11:3

by XBEHERE in

rnwt "but i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the christ is god.".

sexism aside, how does the wt/gb explain their absolute power over the sheeples based on this scripture?

where are they located in the model listed in that scrtipture?

XBEHERE

rNWT "But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God."

Sexism aside, how does the WT/GB explain their absolute power over the sheeples based on this scripture? Where are they located in the model listed in that scrtipture? Am I missing something?

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crisis of conscience

by venting in

jw
friends

if you were going to skip some parts of this book which ones would they be?

whats the best part?

i know i sound lazy, but i can't read this in bed next to my wife.

XBEHERE

Agreed, all of it is good. Try to find the time, I sneaked around and read it in about 4 days and I am mentally free now. Physically is taking much, much, much, much, much longer than 4 days.

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Elders: Born-Ins vs Recruits

by breakfast of champions in

this is an unofficial survey.. was curious as to the number of currently serving elders who were born-in and/or raised as jw versus those who were "recruited"( i.e, not born in or raised as jw.).

for instance, right now in the hall i am assigned to:.

2 elders were born-in and/or raised as jws.. 5 were not (recruited as adults).

XBEHERE

In my cong:

10 Elders

5 born in

5 recruited most while in their 20's- prior to 1995

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Since Elders And Mini Servants Have To Be Exemplary How Does Anyone Ever Qualify?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it seems to me that you must be almost perfect to be a " servant" in the organization today.

no college, no spiritually weak in the family, no disfellowshipped living at home, no tight pants, etc......who can live up to their lofty ideals?.

.

XBEHERE

It all has to do with what is considered "exemplary". As a former elder Min you must know what I am referring to, and it varies from congregation to congregation. By the way this only applies to Joe Schmo brothers. Once you are a pioneer or even better a Bethelite you are automatically exemplary and nothing can change that as long as you remain with those privleges. Pioneer and Bethelite brothers know more than publishers, they are automatically more spiritual, and immediately qualify for any other and all appointments.