if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.
but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?
it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.
All excellent points and these points reveal how confusing the whole thing is. They kept highligting "we don't know...we can't be dogmatic!" etc. So what are we to conclude now? I see OP's point as well as Vanderhoven's: Do we need to be baptized to survive? WE DON'T KNOW.. Do we NEED to be a JW to survive? "We trust that the alimighty will always do what's right" WTH????
The more I try to wrap my head around this the more confused I get.
so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
If I remember correctly, if there is a 2/3 majority on the elder body vote, the minority elders must support the majority decision, thus it becomes unanimous. Probably same with GB
Yes. Depending on the CO often they "prefer" certain things to be unanimous such as appointmernts. Otherwise we've been told in the past to submit a letter explaining why. Honestly though this was all B/S since the CO made the final call regardless. I felt like he was trying to root out disenters by exposing their viewpoints. My opinion anyway
after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.
i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.
but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.
this could really apply to absolutely anything the JWs say from now on, and going back the things they have said
This is true, I have not really thought about it in the terms you are putting it here. I also was raised a JW, pioneered, went to Bethel, and served as an elder for decades so we have a similiar experience, at least in these ways.
Since I am also PIMO, I am just waiting to see how this new lite sinks in to the R&F. I am very curious to see the results of this major change not just the no time reporting but also the things you mentioned. The "Jehovah will do what is right" in regards to resurrections and last minute repentance is even more major in my opinion. Going to be fascinating going forward.
no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.
no private home book studies.
no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.
In my area of the Mid Atlantic east coast of the US, attendance is down noticeably but not too drastically. This is how its been sincce resumption of in person meetings so not a direct result of the AM new light.
My friend who is near "Jerusalem" said that meeting attendance is rather inconsistent. Some meetings its decent then some, usually the mid-week meeting, attendance is maybe 60-70% of what it should be. Whats interesting about this is he said he has several bethelites in his congregation and even their attendance in person is spotty. he says they claim they have duties and can't leave the site but my buddy is skeptical and he feels like many times he thinks they just don't feel like making the drive to the KH. Even the chosen ones are geting tired of the routine.
watched this video and was wondering if any of you recall seeing this video besides on this presenter's youtube platform.
anyway, watch it !
it is disgusting but enlightening.
ew. so disturbing, yet realistic.
i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.
here are a few ideas.
-do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.
bearing in mind jesus said those that have love among themselves this is what I based on the claim that JWs are the closest
If you mean "conditional" love among yourselves then I agree with you. Lets face it, as soon as you start questioning or even give a hint that something is amiss you are under the microscope. Not so with many other religines I think.
if you haven't seen this exjw redditer's posts or youtube channel check this video.
watch the whole video... you will have a different prespective on what happened to am3's gb ousting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvch8p1mfek .
It was like listening to a huge ego personified. He thinks a lot of himself.
Agree totally, but I was thinking it is possible that he was too vocal for the GB and this is what caught up to him and necessitated his ousting among other things. I can only imagine the things he would say during the GB/Helper meetings.
if you haven't seen this exjw redditer's posts or youtube channel check this video.
watch the whole video... you will have a different prespective on what happened to am3's gb ousting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvch8p1mfek .
If you haven't seen this ExJW Redditer's posts or youtube channel check this video. Watch the whole video... you will have a different prespective on what happened to AM3's GB ousting.
https://youtu.be/h0fwwtemmvi.
I was at Bethel with a bro from Hawaii. He was related to an Apana....I wonder if its a relative. Yikes
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
