See my other post, I phoned them.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28597&site=3
as has been mentioned before on this board,cnbc the european finance version of cnn which does have a few non finance programs will be screening dateline as usual at midnight on saturday.. the only question i have is will the dateline show we are eagerly awaiting be screened the saturay following the tuesday show or the saturday preeceding the tuesday show?.
i would have guessed it would be the saturday following,if not,then i have just missed it.. anyway i remember when most people ran analogue satelite that on the eutelsat hot bird satelite you used to be able to watch what was then called nbc super channel which ran a standard nbc schedule,i dont know if it is still available on analogue for anyone who still has analogue set up on hot bird.i think it changed name to nbc europe,in which case you could possibly see it tuesday night,anyway for most of us over here we can definately see dateline on cnbc on astra digital saturday night,or watch it on streaming video through nbcs website.
See my other post, I phoned them.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28597&site=3
forgive me if this information has already been put out but what is the situation for us brits wanting to see the dateline show?.
i've got the full sky digital package and see that dateline goes out on channel 510 (cnbc) but there is no clue as to our show.. any help?.
nic'
Well, I just phone the London office and spoke to someone in programming, and she said the European version is the international version, and they don’t schedule all the segments of the US national version on the international version, and also the international version (the one we see in the UK and over Europe) isn’t put together there until weeks after the US national version.
She did say it’s up to the New York office for the international Dateline programming. So maybe we need to grovel to them to get them to put it in the international version that will air over Europe. Does anyone know a contact that could help?
there was a wt article recently dealing with apostates, and stated that you should 'fear' even talking to them because they can cause you to lose your faith.. nemesis, i believe you talked about it in this thread (if it's the article i think it is)... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=25544&site=3&page=2.
can someone please scan that article for me.. i cannot find the wt (i'm not even sure what the date is, but i think it's the article you are talking about nemesis.. i have an interesting rebuttal for it from their very own reasoning book.. check the link)...
Hello ItsJustlittleoldme, and welcome.
I have reposted the link on the page you quoted, as the link went down. Hope it's what you are after.
i just noticed some more anti apostate lessons in the latest watchtower.
here is a scan of the offending article, may 15, 2002, p. 27 .
looks like we are all now poisonous roots, and a fellow believer must not divulge confidential matters that might endanger them.
Hello ItsJustlittleoldme,
I tried to edit it as the link went down, but it won’t let me as the post is too old. (If you see this Simon can you delete this post and change the picture link on the first page to this one please.)
Anyhow, here it is until then:
an israeli scientist has bred a featherless chicken which he says will revolutionise the poultry industry.. .
that pic isn't very good - they showed them walking about on the news and they looked just like an about-to-be-cooked chicken on legs.. wierd!
I wonder if you can get them as pets, they look quite cute don’t they! I also see they were naturally bred, they are not genetically engineered, just selectively bred to have no feathers. I suppose they would get sunburn easily if they were outside. But they do look much more cute then a normal chicken.
Here is a short video of the story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/37941000/rm/_37941000_chicken13_nelson_vi.ram
And the text story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2000000/2000003.stm
can any of the u.k. natives on this forum point me to a website that lists costs of basic items like food, etc?
or maybe you can let me know from personal experience the price of things in london and vicinity?.
tr.
Hi TR,
Food is much the same in supermarkets all over the UK. The main ones in London are Sainsbury's, Tesco, Marks & Spencer’s, Morrisons, and Cost Cutters. The small 24-hour ones are expensive so be warned! If you are rich, you can get your stuff from Harrods food hall.
Generally, London is a rip off city, especially where beer is concerned! Did you have anything in mind in particular besides food? London is definitely one of the worlds most expensive cities, there are good bargains around just depends what you want, and if you know where to go.
hey guys,.
did not connect the way it was suppose to.
sorry.. pureheart
That interview was pathetic! Talk about lack of critical analysis. I bet the Watch Tower only agreed to do it if it was promised to be non-critical. Did you hear the way Brown lied and said they “didn’t discourage voting”, and that they “had never predicted a day or hour”. Did you note he specifically said day or hour, and not year! The devious bastard knew exactly what he was saying with his smooth lies and deceptions, I wanted to puke! It was lies, lies, and more lies!
i have now had confirmed that dateline has booked the program outlining the jw molestation issue for tuesday, may 28th.
this looks to be a certain date unless some type of tragedy or international problem should preempt the program.
well now, you have it, get your vcrs warmed up!
Englishman,
You said: “Also, US and UK video are totally incompatible. UK TV uses a 625 line format, US is 500 +, which means you will see zilch on tapes sent over. It's also highly illegal.”
Hummm, not sure who told you it’s illegal? I have had tapes sent over from the US quite legally. I have never heard anyone say its illegal ever. As for playback, the US use NTSC and we use PAL, but many videos recorders will play both, mine does. Maybe you need to treat yourself to a new video recorder Englishman!
i have now had confirmed that dateline has booked the program outlining the jw molestation issue for tuesday, may 28th.
this looks to be a certain date unless some type of tragedy or international problem should preempt the program.
well now, you have it, get your vcrs warmed up!
Ballistic, Simon, and all others in the UK and Europe, CNBC does air the US Dateline here on CNBC midnight Saturdays to 1.30am Sunday on satellite [channel 510]. Mind you, they don’t always show when scheduled, and I’m not sure how they choose what to show from the US Dateline. I have emailed them to see if this Watchtower issue will be aired over Europe, but I haven’t had any reply as yet—I will let you know if they email me back.
The programme info is here:
while reading another thread on apostates, i did a quick search on the word apostate on the wt cd.
these people are really paranoid about us!.
*** it-1 127 apostasy ***.
I love the false circular reasoning in this bit:
“But suppose we are preaching the good news and people raise questions or objections similar to those raised by opposers? Of course, if a person is not sincere and merely wishes to argue, usually it is best to excuse ourselves and go to the next door. . . .”
See how they make the wild assumption that someone who argues, is not sincere, and only sincere people don’t argue—in other words if your gullible and just suck up like a sponge all the JWs have to say then you’re sincere!
Next they say they do not have to read the “apostate” material to refute it. Oh, but they can say this “. . . book or a pamphlet that is filled with slander and half-truths.”
“But if someone sincerely asks about certain claims of apostates, what can be done? First, we can ask what, exactly, has caused the concern. It may be only one or two points. Then we can stick to these and answer from the Scriptures, from the Society’s publications, and from what we truthfully know about the subject. We need not conclude that we have to read a book or a pamphlet that is filled with slander and half-truths in order to refute the false claims and teachings of opposers.”
If they claim all the sites like JW-Quotes are “filled with slander and half truths” how can they answer the points without looking at the points, or are we just supposed to believe they are “filled with slander and half-truths” without checking just because the Watchtower says so? Of course!
Quotes here were from the Watchtower 1986, 15 March, pp. 13, 14