They are there to debate or argue right up to the point where the householder presents them with a debate point or an argument. Then they run away.
NeonMadman
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"We're not here to debate or argue"
by sabastious inas a jw i was always taught "never to get into debate or argue with householders.".
you know what is interesting about that?.
the message i had when i went to your door was essentially "hello, what ever your current belief is... is wrong.
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The Bedbugs are coming....
by Snoozy ini seem to hear more and more on the news about the bed bug epedemic.
today they were talking about it on tv and they said they are spreading ,among other ways, at theaters and libraries.. i love going to the show and my grandchildren are spending a lot of time in the libraries at their colleges.. it's just a matter of time before someone close is exposed to them.. what do you do?.
i know for myself i am fearfull of going to the theater now.. they were talking about it in illinois and i am in missouri..can bedbugs swim?
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NeonMadman
I try not to be paranoid about these things and would like to think part of it is media hype.
No, it's really not. I sell pest control services, and we deal with these things constantly. They really are spinning out of control. Industry predictions say they will be the #1 domestic pest within a few more years.
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The Bedbugs are coming....
by Snoozy ini seem to hear more and more on the news about the bed bug epedemic.
today they were talking about it on tv and they said they are spreading ,among other ways, at theaters and libraries.. i love going to the show and my grandchildren are spending a lot of time in the libraries at their colleges.. it's just a matter of time before someone close is exposed to them.. what do you do?.
i know for myself i am fearfull of going to the theater now.. they were talking about it in illinois and i am in missouri..can bedbugs swim?
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NeonMadman
No spray you can buy can kill them...... NO SPRAY!!! Trust me. It will work for 1 night then ..... we're back..
"Amateur" sprays (the ones you buy at Home Depot etc.) actually tend to spread them. The spray kills the ones it actually hits, but the others nearby are driven to other areas to get away from the spray.
And bedbugs tend to migrate anyway; they will crawl from one part of the house to another or travel with humans. Part of the reason is that they reproduce by a method called "traumatic insemination." Gross alert - stop reading this paragraph here if your stomach is weak. Male bedbugs have a swordlike penis. Females have a vagina, but the males rarely use it - rather they plunge their swordlike penises directly into the female's abdomen and deposit their seed there. The females who survive this procedure are impregnated, and, as you can imagine, don't want to hang around their baby daddies any more. Therefore, they go somewhere else. Like another room in your house.
There was a segment on one of my judge shows, where one sister sued another for bringing bed bugs to her home and the expert said it doesn't have anything to do with being dirty, clean people can transport them too.
Exactly. Cleanliness has nothing to do with it. Bedbugs are not like cockroaches, which thrive in unsanitary environnments. Bedbugs feed almost exclusively on human blood (the only exception would be if they feed on an animal in desperation when no humans are available) and they are hitchhikers. They can get into the folds of your clothing and travel with you wherever you go. Hotels get them when someone stays there who has an infestation at home, and then that infestation can transfer to the next guest if it isn't discovered and addressed. Treatment is expensive (in a hotel, professionals will typically get $400 or more per room), so sometimes very cheap motels are more of a risk, if the owners are not willing to spend the money to rectify the situation properly.
I wouldn't get freaked out about having 1 jump n you and you bring it home. You can see them. size of an small ant.
If you see one, there are likely others around. If you find one in your home, I'd suggest getting a professional treatment. Bedbugs can go a long time without a blood meal - a year or more. So if you find live or dead bugs, you need to assume that you have an infestation and treat accordingly. One pair of bedbugs can produce literally hundreds of offspring within 75-90 days, all of whom then start to reproducing as well.
Tried to turn the Heat up all the way to kill them in the heat registers.... I think they liked it.
To kill them with heat, you need to maintain a consistent temperature above 140 degrees for at least an hour. The company I work for is on the verge of unfurling a portable heat chamber that can be used in hotel rooms to decontaminate mattresses and furniture from bed bugs. I'm actually going to a training session for it next week. The problem that sometimes happens with conventional heat treatments is that the item (such as a mattress) achieves a surface temperature of 140 but does not heat consistently all the way through. Thus, the bugs that are nested inside do not die.
Chemical treatments, applied correctly, can also be effective, but very few non-professionals know how to use the chemicals effectively for bedbugs. Every possible crack and crevice in the affected room must be treated. Some people think that all they need to do is replace the affected mattress, but that's not true - the bugs get into everything in the area.
And I wonder if you can make someone pay the expense of getting rid of them if you get them from that person/place?
I'd imagine that it would be pretty hard to prove with any certainty where you got them. There would always be the possibility that the source was somewhere else, unless you could show that the person had deliberately infested your home.
Also I wonder how long it takes to find out you have a problem if you carry one home or someone brings one to you?
That can vary. You might spot a bug right away, or it might take several months, until there had been enough reproduction to result in a noticeable infestation. Look for live or dead bugs, shed skins, small black marks around the edges of mattresses or box springs (it almost looks like someone took a sharpie pen and made a bunch of dots with it), and blood spots on the sheets. You could also place glue boards around the legs of the bed and see if you catch any bugs (because bed bugs only crawl, they do not jump or fly - though they can crawl across the ceiling and drop). If you have a "hit," it's time to call in a pro.
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WHY DOES THE WATCHTOWER TEACH THAT THERE WILL BE NO HUMANS IN HEAVEN?
by clarity in1 cor 15:51 says that our mortal bodies will be changed.
by giving up or taking off the physical body.
no.. not taking off ... but putting on incorruption and immortality.
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NeonMadman
Rom 8:11 If, now, the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in YOU, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also make YOUR mortal bodies alive through his spirit that resides in YOU.
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Forehead or Hand - JWs?
by ablebodiedman in.
watch the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_gsfu6fg2u.
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NeonMadman
I'm not sure what point the video is trying to make. JW's are far from the only religion to baptize by immersion. Are they trying to imply that baptism by immersion is the mark of the beast?
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No, Virgina, God doesn't use Paradoxes.
by moshe inbelievingxjw asked me yesterday, in response to my comment that it didn't make sense that god would allow paradoxes in the bible.. moshe, why would it not make sense that, "god would allow paradoxes to happen," ?.
my reply:.
luke 22:21-22 (new international version).
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NeonMadman
Jesus knew Judas would betray him, yet if Judas didn't betray him, then Jesus couldn't fulfill his alleged mission to be sacrificed, as the lamb that saves the world, so actually, Judas was doing God's will, which means he should be blessed not cursed. If we follow this example to it's logical conclusion, it means that, if you follow God's spiritual direction, do His will,in the end you can be damned for doing what God told you to do!!!!!
I don't see a contradiction here. The Gospels never say that God TOLD Judas to betray Jesus. Jesus' betrayal was within God's plan, and someone certainly had to do it, but that doesn't mean that God endorsed the act, only that God can cause even sin to somehow contribute to his purposes. For example, when Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Jerusalem, he wasn't doing it because God told him to. Rather, he was pursuing his own selfish agenda, but God caused it to work for the punishmnet of Judah, which was something he had purposed to do. Later, Babylon came under judgment because of its actions.
Likewise with Judas - he wasn't betraying Jesus out of obedience to God, but for his own selfish reasons. Nonetheless, God is sovereign and can make all things work for his purposes, even when that is not the intent of the actor.
There may be some theological paradoxes in the Bible, but this doesn't at all strike me as one of them.
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Psalms 83:18
by Joey Jo-Jo ingot a question i got stuck on, the original hebrew wording has yhwh, so it says:-.
that people may know that you, whose name is jehovah,.
you alone are the most high over all the earth.
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NeonMadman
The Old Testament name for God is YHWH, which has been translated as "Jehovah" in some English Bibles. "Yahweh" is probably a better rendering. When Jewish scholars around the 2nd century BC made a Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures (known as the "Septuagint," which is abbreviated "LXX"), they chose to use the word for "Lord" rather than the actual name of God, since there was a Jewish tradition at the time of not pronouncing the Name. The apostles, in writing the New Testament books, quoted freely from the LXX without ever making any bones about the fact that the divine Name had been "removed" from it. Apparently the fact that they regarded Jesus as having the "name above EVERY name" was more important to them than the correct rendering of YHWH.
Psalm 83:18 is a big deal only because it is one of the four places where the translators of the King James Bible broke from their usual custom of rendering YHWH as "Lord" and instead rendered it as "Jehovah." Nonetheless, there are over 6000 other places where the Hebrew manuscripts contain YHWH that could just as legitimately have been rendered "Jehovah," so Psalm 83:18 is nothing special in that regard. The JW's have just made a big deal of it because so many people own the King James Version and they could surprise people by getting them to open their own Bible and see that God's name is Jehovah. In the New Testament, the name of Jesus is the one that is important; the name of Jehovah is never directly mentioned, and the NT writers had no problem quoting the LXX using "Lord," when the actual Hebrew said YHWH. So the issue of the Name wasn't as important a matter as the JW's would have it.
By the way, this also means that it wasn't "the churches" that removed the name of Jehovah from the Bible, as the JW's would have you believe - it was the pre-Christian Jewish translators of the LXX, and the apostles tacitly endorsed that usage by quoting the LXX in their writings without objection.
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Psalms 83:18
by Joey Jo-Jo ingot a question i got stuck on, the original hebrew wording has yhwh, so it says:-.
that people may know that you, whose name is jehovah,.
you alone are the most high over all the earth.
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NeonMadman
The Old Testament name for God is YHWH, which has been translated as "Jehovah" in some English Bibles. "Yahweh" is probably a better rendering. When Jewish scholars around the 2nd century BC made a Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures (known as the "Septuagint," which is abbreviated "LXX"), they chose to use the word for "Lord" rather than the actual name of God, since there was a Jewish tradition at the time of not pronouncing the Name. The apostles, in writing the New Testament books, quoted freely from the LXX without ever making any bones about the fact that the divine Name had been "removed" from it. Apparently the fact that they regarded Jesus as having the "name above EVERY name" was more important to them than the correct rendering of YHWH.
Psalm 83:18 is a big deal only because it is one of the four places where the translators of the King James Bible broke from their usual custom of rendering YHWH as "Lord" and instead rendered it as "Jehovah." Nonetheless, there are over 6000 other places where the Hebrew manuscripts contain YHWH that could just as legitimately have been rendered "Jehovah," so Psalm 83:18 is nothing special in that regard. The JW's have just made a big deal of it because so many people own the King James Version and they could surprise people by getting them to open their own Bible and see that God's name is Jehovah. In the New Testament, the name of Jesus is the one that is important; the name of Jehovah is never directly mentioned, and the NT writers had no problem quoting the LXX using "Lord," when the actual Hebrew said YHWH. So the issue of the Name wasn't as important a matter as the JW's would have it.
By the way, this also means that it wasn't "the churches" that removed the name of Jehovah from the Bible, as the JW's would have you believe - it was the pre-Christian Jewish translators of the LXX, and the apostles tacitly endorsed that usage by quoting the LXX in their writings without objection.
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Psalms 83:18
by Joey Jo-Jo ingot a question i got stuck on, the original hebrew wording has yhwh, so it says:-.
that people may know that you, whose name is jehovah,.
you alone are the most high over all the earth.
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NeonMadman
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Would you call this a double standard on God's part?
by sabastious inexodus 20: 13 - you shall not murder.. vs. exodus 12: 29 - at midnight the lord struck down all the firstborn in egypt, from the firstborn of pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well.. i believe this is a classic case of "do what i say, not as i do.".
-sab.
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NeonMadman
one could
I'm not quite sure how. If I leave $100 on my coffee table and you visit my house and you take the money and spend it, you are a thief. If I take the money and spend it, I've done nothing wrong. By definition, God is the giver of life and the one who has authority over it. If he decides to end a life, he is within his authority. If I decide to end a life, I am committing murder. The difficulty seems to arise when we presume that we are equals with God and can therefore judge his actions. He judges us, not the other way around.