Posts by NeonMadman

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what kind of degree do you have?

by deservingone26 in

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ive been going thru a lot of the different posts on here and seeing that most here believe that higher education is very important.

i agree that it is important and i plan on going back to school in the fall but im just wondering who all here has a degree and in what?

just curious .

NeonMadman

A.S in Business Administration (which I was working on as a JW but completed after coming out)

B.S. in Biblical Studies

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Need help combatting disfellowshipping policy scripturally

by stuckinlimbo in

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hi i need some help to show that the scriptures used to uphold the disfellowshipping policy are actually only meant to apply to those that deny the christ blah blah.

not for me but someone close to me.

parents have disowned her.

NeonMadman

This brief article from my website might help:

http://dispelthedarkness.org/index.php?p=1_10_Expel-the-Wicked-Man

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if 1 elder definetly knows how i feel of governing body and some of thier doctrine, he knows as i admitted viewing and researching apostate liturate can they still disfellowship me if i refuse to meet?

right now the 1 brother would talk to the body they would need 2 witneses or one more brother to determine if thier should be a jc yet i know and they know it would be obviouse for the need for one, could the just form one and if i refuse to meet could they df me anyway?.

NeonMadman

In theory, they should need at least two witnesses to disfellowship you. Oh, wait - that's only if you were a pedophile.

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what are your opinions of ewatchman.com

by Evidently Apostate in

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looking at some of his responses to comments on his videos on youtube i think he is rude, and condecending, not unlike the jw's he defends.

if he is trying to defend the majority of the doctrine why do it from outside the org?.

NeonMadman

i think he is rude, and condecending, not unlike the JW's he defends.

Sounds like he hasn't changed much since he used to post on this board as "You Know," years ago.

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Witness conversation stoppers...

by Botzwana in

this was forwarded to me by a witness....what are some witness conversation stoppers though?.

field ministry conversation stoppers.

***the householder said, "only those who have accepted jesus in their lives will be saved.

NeonMadman

From a brother in the Dominican Republic: Trinitarians usually start off with some "proof texts" and then launch into some Greek words they know. I have learned now instead of trying to "duke it out" with them, I bypass all of that by saying, "Let's suppose you are right, the Trinity does exist and we are wrong, then please show me from the Bible what I should do to find the right religion."

I'd be happy to do that, but first, could you show me in the Bible where it says that we should be trying to find the right religion? My Bible says that we are saved through Jesus Christ, not through a religion.

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Mom Tries to Kill Kids, Self, Before 'Tribulation' Comes

by whereami in

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religion = respected insane madness.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vj8-_jhfaa&feature=player_embedded#at=71.

NeonMadman

I was wondering if she might have been a follower of Harold Camping. He says that the Rapture will occur on May 21, less than two months from now. I was driving up I-95 in Connecticut yesterday and saw two billboards proclaiming that date, then got home and found an ad in Reader's Digest as well. Word is getting around.

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Older Guys: did you pioneer during 'Nam?

by compound complex in

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did you receive a 4-d classification readily?.

cc.

NeonMadman

I received the 1-O classification easily (Conscientious Objector). I was not a regular pioneer, though I "vacation pioneered" often. Just the same, regular pioneer was the standard with the draft board to get a 4-D. I could have been in some difficulty (since 1-O's could be called for alternative service, which was also forbidden at the time) had not the draft lottery begun and I drew the number 351. With that high a number, there was no chance of my being called. I was reclasssified 1-H (High Lottery) and the quest for a 4-D became moot.

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Greed & Blood Transfusions

by Alfred in

if this doesn't make you angry, nothing will.... you say that "at a blood transfusion the person receiving the blood is in great need of it; the transfusion is not undertaken because he is greedy for it".

for when a doctor tells a patient that he must have a blood transfusion or else he cannot get well and live, what does the doctor create in the patient but a greed for the blood of another human creature?

-watchtower may 15, 1950 page 159. so, according to the wt, people who accept blood transfusions (because they want to live and be there for their children) are greedy!

NeonMadman

So wouldn't that logic imply that any medical treatment you desire in order to improve your health or even save your life is something you are "greedy" for? If you want an aspirin to cure a headache, or surgery or chemotherapy to cure cancer, are you not "greedy" for those things under this definition? By their logic, you should ban ALL medical treatment on the basis of greed. Better yet, why not just ban desire of every sort and declare themselves Buddhist?

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Greed & Blood Transfusions

by Alfred in

if this doesn't make you angry, nothing will.... you say that "at a blood transfusion the person receiving the blood is in great need of it; the transfusion is not undertaken because he is greedy for it".

for when a doctor tells a patient that he must have a blood transfusion or else he cannot get well and live, what does the doctor create in the patient but a greed for the blood of another human creature?

-watchtower may 15, 1950 page 159. so, according to the wt, people who accept blood transfusions (because they want to live and be there for their children) are greedy!

NeonMadman

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Literature-Leaving Etiquette

by zoiks in

a friend of mine is the tasting room manager at a local vineyard.

this weekend the vineyard hosted an anniversary party for a my-gosh-they-are-so-young-for-having-been-married-for-so-long couple.

while cleaning up after the party, the employees found numerous pieces of literature hidden in their magazine racks, and the 3-dvd set, "the bible - a book of fact & prophecy" hidden among their cds.

NeonMadman

When my father died, my JW ex and I were separated, but not yet divorced. I had been inactive for several years and she was aware that I had severe doubts about the organization. When the wake was held, she walked into the funeral home and proceeded to leave "Hope for the Dead" tracts around the room. She then began to berate me because I hadn't, as my father's only natural child, overridden my 4 step-siblings and insisted that a JW elder conduct the funeral. My father was nominally Protestant, and almost never went to church - not even Christmas and Easter. He was pretty liberal-minded when it came to religious beliefs, but disliked the JW's because they had sucked me into their cult when I was a teenager. I could easily have imagined him rising from his casket to object if his funeral were conducted by a JW. I tried to explain this to her, but of course, it was all about securing an infomercial for the Watchtower. When she wouldn't relent, I suggested that if anything ever happened to her, I'd make sure to get a Baptist minister to conduct her funeral. She eventually got huffy and stormed out of the building - a relief to all present.

I tell this story to point out that brainwashed JW's have no sense of propriety whatsoever when it comes to promoting their cult. Parties, funerals, whatever - it's all just another opportunity to get some brownie points with Jehovah.