Aren't these basically the same as the old "Flock" book? I thought that book basically just bound the three booklets into a hard cover? If they are different, I'd like to have them.
NeonMadman
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1977 to 1981 EMs-PDF!
by Atlantis inthe ems are the elders manuals that were published from 1977 to 1981.. -.
if you want these manuals send me a pm and i'll paste the download link in your pm page.
you may need to copy and paste the link into your browser to get the link to work.
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"never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him" - 2 John 10
by irondork init's us who should be shunning them!.
2 john is talking about the anti-christ.
he describes it:.
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Power of attorney of transfusion issues in the UK
by trailerfitter inhi you wonderful people, i have a serious question.
when my wife finally gets baptised will she have to sign the power of attorney over to the jws automatically or this a voluntary thing?
i am concerned being a none bleiever that she will undermine my authority on this issue.
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NeonMadman
The thing is that they also use the Blood document as an informal form of JW ID. If you go to Bethel and want to get a Watchtower Library CD, for example (which is supposed to be for JWs only), they will ask to see your blood doc as a proof that you are a JW. So it does involve more than just the blood issue. While it is technically voluntary, it's clear that everyone is expected to carry one.
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The GB are innocent!! Leave them alone, OK?
by punkofnice indid that get your attention?
hahahahahaha.
seriously, what i've been running around my head is:-.
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NeonMadman
Followed by an ad for feminine pads when I reloaded after posting.
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The GB are innocent!! Leave them alone, OK?
by punkofnice indid that get your attention?
hahahahahaha.
seriously, what i've been running around my head is:-.
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NeonMadman
I got a Diet Coke ad...
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What would Ex-JW's and Born Agains do if it was proven that BAC's gave wrong dates for the end
by booker-t ini am so sick and tired of ex-jw's and born again christians(bacs) always condemning jw's and mormons for giving false dates when in fact born agains have a history of end of the world and rapture date setting.
every time i bring this up to hard core born agains they always say "but those born agains are not apart of my church.
" but in the very next breath they will claim that jesus has "one" church and one body of christ exist.
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NeonMadman
In regard to your statement that "the Catholic church set the date for the year 1000 AD believing the Satan would be destroyed and that Armaggeddon had to come in that year," I would again have to ask for citations of official Roman Catholic sources that said this. The fact that a rumor may have been going around does not make the church itself responsible any more than the whole JW organization would be responsible for some weird remark made by a random JW at the door. If there was an ex cathedra statement by the pope, or a document from the Magisterium, that would be a different matter. Not that I am defending the Catholic church, I just feel that you are playing a bit loose with church history.
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What would Ex-JW's and Born Agains do if it was proven that BAC's gave wrong dates for the end
by booker-t ini am so sick and tired of ex-jw's and born again christians(bacs) always condemning jw's and mormons for giving false dates when in fact born agains have a history of end of the world and rapture date setting.
every time i bring this up to hard core born agains they always say "but those born agains are not apart of my church.
" but in the very next breath they will claim that jesus has "one" church and one body of christ exist.
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NeonMadman
Please cite the church fathers who actually set dates. I am aware that some expected the return of Christ possibly within their lifetime, but I'm not aware of any orthodox Christian writers in the early years who went so far as to set specific dates.
"Born again Christians" do not have a monolithic organization as the JWs do, so there is no mechanism by which false teachers are regulated other than the local church (or the hierarchial church in some denominations). If someone is a false prophet or teacher and is independent of any local or denominational church, then you can hardly expect to hold every Christian everywhere responsible for the false teachings. Many, many BACs, for example, were and are teaching against the false prophecy of Harold Camping. It hardly makes sense to try to pin them with responsibility for a teaching that they opposed. JWs are universally expected to accept and teach whatever doctrines the WTS advanced; that's a whole different matter. If they advocate what the orgnaization teaches, and the organization is provably wrong, then they can be held to be in error. Likewise, anyone who claims to be a BAC but supports the teaching of, for example, Harold Camping deserves the label of false teacher.
To try to equate the body of Christ with the JW organization is a category error. The body of Christ is a spiritual, invisible organism, not a visible, human organization. No human can be absolutely certain as to who is a member. The pious person who has been sitting in the pew next to you for 20 years might be a total hypocritem, and the person you would regard as marginal in the faith might be truly devoted. Jesus said the wheat and weeds would grow together until the end of the age, and only at that time would it become obvious which was which. Just claiming to be a Christian doesn't actually make you one in the biblical sense. Jesus said that false teachers and false prophets would arise and deceive many. The existence of the false does not negate the existence of the true, nor is it necessary to condemn the true because of the errors of the false.
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NeonMadman
I've spoken at churches and conferences on a number of occasions.
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Thank you note from Circuit Overseer
by RayPublisher innotice how thankful we should be to "the slave"... he said that expression dozens of times in his recent visit, over and over and over ad nauseum.. .
can i barf now?.
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NeonMadman
How ironic that the "slave" are basically the only persons in the organization who are NOT slaves.
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The (study) WT November 2011 Makes Me Puke !
by Hairyhegoat inthis study edition is an absolute attack on kids going to higher education, and you all are getting too cosy at home with your sky tv and the internet, get out on the doors you idle dogs.. oh and if you have a good job already you could not be putting the kingdum first !.
here is some of the crap in the mag, and the article temporary residents in a wicked world.. 10. .
in view of the imminent end of the present system of things, as jehovahs servants.
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NeonMadman
Pretty much the same thing they said in 1969, which is why I never got my Bachelors degree until 2009, much too late to make any impact on my career.