Posts by Ucantnome

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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

Ucantnome

Your view? Please share. Try and stick to the point.

I was baptised as a JW. I truly believed I had the truth. I do not think now that I did. I think I was wrong. Maybe in time I will change my viewpoint.

With this in mind I don't think it is wise on my part to judge God's actions. God as creator of everything including so many things of which I have no knowledge must surely be in a better position to judge.

In the Bible when those who went into the wilderness were provided with manna they complained at times about it. If God were to provide food miraculously today we would still have problems of disease, wars, poverty, natural disasters ect. No doubt some would complain why doesnt he do something about these problems. As a JW we believed he would intervene and bring the destruction of the wicked and provide a paradise earth. Some would complain about God's intervention in this way. They would rather limit him to what they see fit as an intervention and so remove his Godship. Then if he is not God he has no need to intervene.

On a personal level I think of Christ's message on giving and the Widow's mite. Giving from our needs. Do I really practise giving. Before I criticise God do I really give out of my needs. Could I sell up and move to a cheaper location and give my extra money to the starving, could I donate a weeks wage and live on the bare essentials or would I rather complain as to why God doesnt save me the trouble and provide for these people.

God's provision of his son as a ransom for all in my view provides the greatest relief possible from all of man's ills and then I wonder as to whether he really needed to do it.

That's my view at this time.

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If Jerusalem destruction was truly significant- Why would an almighty God allow so much confusion regarding the date?

by mankkeli in

i was just thinking that if truly the destruction of jerusalem would have any significance today, why should there be so much confusion surrounding its date and discrepancies regarding the names of those neo-babylonian kings.. .

if truly that event was significant, why should it be so difficult for the almighty god to pen down the exact date in the bible and shield us from unnecessary debates, reliance on scholars and opaque explanations from religions with ulterior motives?.

i cant comprehend any reason to justify the silence from god on this date.. .

Ucantnome

The destruction of Jerusalem in 607 and the end of the Gentile times in 1914 was I believed significant in that we had the Sign of the Son of Man in 1914 and Christ 2nd presence.

The Sign of the Son of Man spoken of in Matthew 24:30 I believe the Witnesses show to be a future event.

The purpose of the "Sign" I believe is to gather people to it. Jesus never said what the sign would be but he told us the angels would gather the elect.

As the Angels will do the gathering and the "Sign of the Son of Man" has not been seen I see no significance in 1914 and therefore no significance in the date of when Jerusalem was destroyed and therefore no confusion.

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Luke 21:8 - Who Should We Really Avoid?

by Darth Rutherford in

luke 21:8 - who should we really avoid?.

in his sign of the last days, jesus warned his followers: look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, i am he, and, the due time has approached.

(luke 21:8) jesus provides clues that help us identify who to avoid.

Ucantnome

Interesting.

Matthew 24:26,27.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. (NIV)

Seems to suggest it would not be an invisible presence.

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Do we have the right to judge god?

by mankkeli in

do we have the right to judge god?.

this is an important question.

non-believers often become and remain non-believers because they judge that god is incomprehensible or malevolent, and therefore of dubious existence in the form believers claim.

Ucantnome

Do we have the right to judge god?

God as i understand is all powerful. Creator of everything.

Can I judge whether he acts correctly? Do I have the right to judge his actions? No I don't think I can judge God unless I am God. I think I can judge whether I wish to worship him or not. I think that involves my trust. Trust that he will always act in righteous manner.

Am I righteous? Would I judge him in righteousness if I'm not?

I think I have the right to decide whether I wish to trust God and serve him but not to judge him as if I know better.

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Did YOU Actually Believe That You Would Never Die?

by minimus in

jw
friends

even though i was raised a witness, i was never convinced that the end would be in 1975 or even in my lifetime..

Ucantnome

I find it is interesting how in the New World Translation they translate Philippians 1:23 ( greek word analysat) instead of departing as releasing. In the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures in the appendix page 1151 it says,

"In no way is the apostle here saying that immediately at his death he would be changed into a spirit to be with Christ forever. Such getting to be with Christ the Lord will first be possible at Christ's return, when the dead in Christ will rise first,..."

Surely the Apostle Paul ( from the understanding of death of JW's) would have no consious thought from the moment he closed his eyes in death. Time could not exist in death. Therefore he would be able to say that it was immediately at his death.

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Did YOU Actually Believe That You Would Never Die?

by minimus in

jw
friends

even though i was raised a witness, i was never convinced that the end would be in 1975 or even in my lifetime..

Ucantnome

"Actually, it is ironic that the "anointed" jws have to die to get their reward"

The Apostle Paul said they would be changed i'm sure.

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What Was The BEST Thing About Being A Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

this thread could be a saver!.

Ucantnome

Knowing the end would come soon. Not having to worry about the future. When you came home from Field Service and had witnessed to somebody having that warm feeling inside that you done something good. Knowing the brothers were honest. The brotherhood. I suppose the best thing was knowing you were keeping your integrity toward Jehovah amidst the wicked system we live in.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-11-2011 WT Study (CLEAR WARNINGS)

by blondie in

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friends

(b) from where do false teachers often come, and.

false teachers are like dried-up.

about false teachers.

Ucantnome

WILL YOU HEED JEHOVAH’S

CLEAR WARNINGS?

“This is the way. Walk in it, you people.”—ISA. 30:21

This directs us to Christ not to an organization.

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The list of things that would never have occurred if the JW organization never existed

by thetrueone in

coming off a topic that terry started recently concerning what if j rutherford never grabbed a hold of the wts.

corporation.. i thought it might be interesting to accumulate a list of things that would never have happened due to the wts/jws .

existence and expansion over the years.

Ucantnome

Many people would not have had a free home bible study

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Delineating the shameful story of the Jehovah's Witnesses failed apocalypse saga

by mankkeli in

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friends

one of the most firmly established new religious movements which bases its mission on apocalyptic predictions is jehovahs witnesses.

jehovahs witnesses believe that we are living in a harvest period, the end days of the present world, and should dramatically change our lives accordingly.. the movement can be traced to the 1830s, when a baptist leader named william miller announced that the bible is full of secret numerical clues.

according to his interpretation of scriptural passages, he wrote of his prediction that christ would return to earth some time between march 21, 1843 and march 21, 1844. an estimated 100,000 people accepted his message and formed an informal network to anticipate the second coming, often leaving their mainstream christain churches in the process.

Ucantnome

"1975 was a sifting period, SOME JW's believed that the end of the world was literally going to be that year, but that is NOT what the society was TEACHING. It was a great thing that happened because those that were thinking their OWN thoughts and not GOD's thoughts left in 1975!! AWESOME"

An interesting comment