Posts by Ucantnome

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Honest survey question on effectiveness of 'apostacy'

by Simon in

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it seems like lots of people have big dreams of 'destroying the watchtower'.

it's usually linked to a story of how they were wronged and want some revenge.

do these 'in your face' attempts to convince people that the truth isn't the truth really have an effect?.

Ucantnome

i think a person leaves because of experiences.

some i know their lives wouldn't be that much different whether they were witnesses or not.

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Gosh, what do you do with people like this?

by Julia Orwell in

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ok i'm chatting on facebook with a guy who's studying with jws, who isn't yet an unbaptised publisher because he can't kick the cancer sticks.

now i don't believe in the bible anymore, but i say i do to get a bit of common ground with this guy.

it's a common attitude among jws.

this site sucks

by Hortensia in

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you all spend all your time bickering about religion and doctrine and god and evolution and atheists, not to mention all the discussion about athiests too.

you are totally ignoring an important subject.

we haven't had one fucking decent discussion of dr. who in at least a year!!!.

Ucantnome

i never liked Dr. Who for some reason but i like science fiction generally. i liked the Daleks when i was a kid. they were scary. i liked the theme tune

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time to reboot jwn??? attn. tech49, formerlongtime elder, others.

by nowwhat? in

first of all let me start by saying who am i to judge, but... i understand jwn has completely evolved over the years, but what i would like to see a forum that has current members and former jw's that still live by bible principles and respect the bible, but are not afraid to call out the watchtower on their practices and revised history.

i think quality posters as mentioned above, after venting their frustrations and experiences realize this website is taken over by athiests.

and punk kids-[ see similar post.

Ucantnome

i think maybe we read or post for different reasons. i didn't come here to learn about christianity or atheism. i have learnt where a couple of things are in the Watchtower publications.

when i was leaving the Witnesses i wouldn't have come here, i wouldn't read Ray Franz books although i had both. i felt it needed to be my decision.

i was surprised so many who were strong Witnesses are now atheist. reading the threads that relate to atheism and evolution i generally find boring.

for some reason those who i know who are witnesses i wouldn't encourage to read what they would view as apostate literature or visit such websites anymore than i did when i was one. it could be that i fear they could lose their love of God which at this point i think could be worse.

but i don't think this site needs to change and i wouldn't post here if i did although one day i probably won't.

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Gosh, what do you do with people like this?

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

ok i'm chatting on facebook with a guy who's studying with jws, who isn't yet an unbaptised publisher because he can't kick the cancer sticks.

now i don't believe in the bible anymore, but i say i do to get a bit of common ground with this guy.

it's a common attitude among jws.

Ucantnome

i had to laugh i started reading and gave up. scrolled down to you next post.

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How many Kingdom Halls have you went to in your lifetime?

by Iamallcool in

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for me, i think i went to 20 kingdom halls in my lifetime.

just a guess.

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Ucantnome

i was in 9 congregations in two different countries from childhood to leaving. visited a few more

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

Ucantnome

thank you i will direct her to your thread

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

Ucantnome

i have a friend Vince who recently lose her child do you think she would benefit from atheism?

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Have you grown detached from caring about JW family and old friends?

by tootired2care in

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after being out of the borg for a year and a half, weve dealt with a lot of nonsense from local elders stopping by unannounced, well-meaning do-gooders trying to encourage us.

somehow weve managed to get through this without getting dfd/dad.

for me the worst part of it all has been that much of my family has shunned me, and stopped talking to me, as soon as they heard through the grapevine that i wasnt going to meetings.

Ucantnome

i think it's like those 3d pictures i used to see all the time a few years ago. don't think my wife ever saw the 3d image.

it never worried me.

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What was your "Aha!" moment?

by Hortenzie in

for me it was when i learned that gb makes their decisions by 2/3 majority vote, not by direction of holy spirit..

Ucantnome

we were discussing John 1:1.

i stopped preaching some years earlier because of something in the Watchtower and gradually it led to a meeting with some elders and me ceasing to attend.

later my daughter had some discussions with a baptist girl about the trinity and we discussed it. i had little time for it. then a short while later the elder visited and it was how he viewed Christ. i'd for some reason never felt that way. hard to explain but i was surprised how I felt.